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20 hours ago, Ucgrad2015 said:

With all the Court street development. Could we create a new court street topic?

 

For news/discussion specifically related to the Court & Walnut tower, use: Cincinnati: Downtown: Central Parkway and Walnut Development

 

For general news/discussion related to the future of Court Street, use: Cincinnati: Downtown: Development and News

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On 1/25/2019 at 2:48 PM, DEPACincy said:

Some pics taken on Tuesday (1/22). One is from the north side of Ziegler Park. This building will block the Macy's building from this vantage point pretty soon. 


Took one today from basically the same spot and it is completely covering the Macy's building. 

 

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Is there still not a name for this building?

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I just noticed this week that you can see this from the Western Hills Viaduct. Probably visible for a while but i try not to take my eyes off the road there for more than a second as the lanes are so narrow. That and it is finally light in the morning after the time change. Being on the edge of town facing north helps too but some of the closer buildings in the west end and otr had blocked it for a bit until it got high enough.

 

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Wow, what an interesting photo! Cool to see those houses miles away looking like they're right next door. How many floors are left on this thing? 2?

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Not liking the punch out concrete wall along the south facing wall of the residential tower. I was really holding out hope this design would come together better or look more refined from the renderings but i think my fears are becoming true...

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10 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

If The Ascent was a square and had a grocery store at the bottom. 

 

And if it was 60% parking garage. 

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Sorry to blow up this thread with so many phone pics but I had to park on the top level and thought I’d share some of the new vistas provided by the garage. 

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I hope 3cdc next focus will be that parking lot on walnut next to the library. Easily one of the worst parking craters in downtown imo, and will help reactivate that stretch next to the library and connect that portion of downtown to court st, to otr 

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18 minutes ago, troeros said:

I hope 3cdc next focus will be that parking lot on walnut next to the library. Easily one of the worst parking craters in downtown imo, and will help reactivate that stretch next to the library and connect that portion of downtown to court st, to otr 

Always thought it would be a great location for the ballet. Doesn’t even have to be a tall building just something to pull together that section of Walnut.

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^ Is that patio on top of the library open to the public? I've never been up there. Would be another great place to get both cranes in one shot.

 

I heard a rumor that the Court & Walnut tower crane may only be up for another week or so.

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18 minutes ago, taestell said:

^ Is that patio on top of the library open to the public? I've never been up there. Would be another great place to get both cranes in one shot.

 

I heard a rumor that the Court & Walnut tower crane may only be up for another week or so.

 

The rooftop patios at the library (there are three: one on the west side and two on the south side) are only open for private events. I've asked the staff why, and they say it's due to liability and needing to have staff/supervision on the patios if they were open to the public. It's a shame because they are great spaces. If you just want to snap a few quick photos, you might be able to get a staff member to let you use the space for a few minutes. Worth asking around. 

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Turner tops out 206-foot Court and Walnut tower

 

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Turner Construction Co. completed the last structural concrete pour for the $92 million Court & Walnut mixed-use tower on Friday.

 

Turner Construction, the general contractor on the 206-foot tall building, said it has taken more than 300,000 man hours to reach this point. Court & Walnut is a mixed-use building that will include a 45,000-square-foot, two-level Kroger grocery store, 139 apartments and a now-open 555-space parking garage.

 

The residential portion of the project is being developed by North American Properties, NorthPointe Group and Rookwood Properties. Cincinnati Center City Development Corp. is the developer for the garage portion.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/04/12/turner-tops-out-206-foot-court-and-walnut-tower.html


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So this has me confused.  According to this--which is obviously not authoritative--the American Building is 255 feet tall.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Cincinnati 

 

This Courier article says that the new Kroger/Court and Walnut building topped out at 206 feet.  I could be totally wrong, but the new building looks pretty much the same height as-- and maybe just a tad taller than--the American Building.  Any ideas?  Is this a typo, and it's really 260 feet tall? 

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19 minutes ago, jdm00 said:

So this has me confused.  According to this--which is obviously not authoritative--the American Building is 255 feet tall.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Cincinnati 

 

This Courier article says that the new Kroger/Court and Walnut building topped out at 206 feet.  I could be totally wrong, but the new building looks pretty much the same height as-- and maybe just a tad taller than--the American Building.  Any ideas?  Is this a typo, and it's really 260 feet tall? 

I think 206 sounds more accurate. I actually do not believe that the American building is 255ft tall. More around 200. The Kroger building is 320 ft and if you put the American building next to it the difference looks to be more than just 70 or so ft.

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Emporis has the American Building at 255 feet as well:  https://www.emporis.com/buildings/122035/american-building-cincinnati-oh-usa

 

And it also lists the new apartment building at Eighth and Sycamore as either 215 feet or 238 feet.  I am certain that building is shorter than this new Court and Walnut building.  https://www.emporis.com/buildings/1249430/8th-sycamore-cincinnati-oh-usa

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16 hours ago, jdm00 said:

Emporis has the American Building at 255 feet as well:  https://www.emporis.com/buildings/122035/american-building-cincinnati-oh-usa

 

And it also lists the new apartment building at Eighth and Sycamore as either 215 feet or 238 feet.  I am certain that building is shorter than this new Court and Walnut building.  https://www.emporis.com/buildings/1249430/8th-sycamore-cincinnati-oh-usa

 

The American Building is 200 ft tall.

 

Kroger HQ is 325 ft tall.

 

Court and Walnut us 206 ft. tall. 

 

According to pages 146 and 147 of this HCB Packet:

 

https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/buildings/historic-conservation/historic-conservation-board/july-24-2017-staff-report-and-attachments-updated-7-19-17/

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A couple questions. It looks like there will be about a 6' parapet wall along the roof flush with the exterior wall. Is that what everyone else is seeing? 

Also, what is going on the terrace at the top level/roof of the garage?

 

And wow, it is great to see the effect this is having on this part of CBD.Fills in a huge gap with a significant structure.

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9 minutes ago, jjakucyk said:

143 little air conditioners.

 

Yeah all of the new buildings seem to be doing this instead of a pair or trio of giant AC units.  Maybe this would ease an eventual condo conversion? 

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48 minutes ago, Rabbit Hash said:

A couple questions. It looks like there will be about a 6' parapet wall along the roof flush with the exterior wall. Is that what everyone else is seeing? 

Also, what is going on the terrace at the top level/roof of the garage?

 

And wow, it is great to see the effect this is having on this part of CBD.Fills in a huge gap with a significant structure.

Would love to see the Salvation Army lot redeveloped.

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Well 3CDC is apparently pressuring Kroger to open the new store the instant it is ready. So they must be chomping at the bit to get their hands on the old OTR Kroger site.

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Well 3CDC just opened all that office space above Sacred Beast and is currently working on making more office space across the street right next to the Vine St Kroger.  That Kroger does not attract a very good crowd so I'm sure they want to close it asap.  

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2 hours ago, Rabbit Hash said:

Also, what is going on the terrace at the top level/roof of the garage?


The renderings on 3CDC's website indicate it will just be another level of parking. It looks to me like the construction crews are just using it as temporary storage at the moment.

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