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Cincinnati: Downtown: 1010 On The Rhine / Downtown Kroger

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5 hours ago, jjakucyk said:

 

Seems a grocery store can have a lot of stuff that's not quite ready and still be open.  They move cases and shelves and redo floors all while the store is still open anyway.

 

 

 

True, on remodel stores the shoppers have no worries walking under ladders and around tape to get their products so we try to do this at night as much as possible to stay out of their way.

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These are priced around $2.25/sf/month which is more or less bottom of the range possible in new construction mid/high rise buildings. So it seems they're pretty well priced given that any lower and the building wouldn't have been built.

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Definitely agree that 1010 is a better location. Plus, you can go to a Kroger without even going outdoors. But Encore has better appliances, better finishes, better amenities, and better spatial layouts in the units. Both complexes are too rich for my blood, but if I had to choose it would honestly be a toss-up between the two. Perhaps I am just underestimating the demand among the younger folks with high-paying jobs. 

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On 8/12/2019 at 11:17 AM, Largue said:

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This floor plan was just released. Still inquiring about pricing info...

 

I really like how they have the mechanical area open out to the hallway instead of the living area, that is a genius idea for better using space.

 

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1 hour ago, SWOH said:

 

I really like how they have the mechanical area open out to the hallway instead of the living area, that is a genius idea for better using space.

 

 

^ I'm pretty sure Encore is like that as well. North American Properties seems to be heading that direction, so I wouldn't be surprised if 8th & Main is the same.

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That's one of those things that you wonder how they didn't think of it sooner. I guess putting it in the middle was left over from the "Nyah, the dame will be home all day to let the furnace man in, see?" days that are long over with.

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12 hours ago, GCrites80s said:

That's one of those things that you wonder how they didn't think of it sooner. I guess putting it in the middle was left over from the "Nyah, the dame will be home all day to let the furnace man in, see?" days that are long over with.

I know in some places (like here in NYC) you can't have penetrations in your egress corridor for anything other than egress as of right. They'll occasionally let things like maintenance closets, mechanical rooms, etc. to open into the corridors if you can prove there really isn't an economical/viable way of doing it differently, but they are likely to give you an objection and force you to redo your plans if you present them something like this.

 

The reason being that mechanical rooms are some of the most likely places to cause a fire other than kitchens and having a door, even fire rated, opening straight into your egress path is counterintuitive. Granted, with sprinklers and fire rated door construction these days it's really NOT an issue, but the code in many places hasn't really kept up with reality.

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I also think the hallway would look cluttered with twice as many doors.

 

But I would rather have it in the hallway as a resident. It would be nice if you had to have maintenance fix something, they might not have to come into your apartment. They can just service it from the hallway.

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I've seen this done with plumbing as well, where the PEX manifold is accessed through the hallway so if someones toilet or tub or sink is overflowing and they aren't home someone can turn it off from the hallway. All the individual lines are labeled to make it easy for maintenance.

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20 hours ago, SWOH said:

I really like how they have the mechanical area open out to the hallway instead of the living area, that is a genius idea for better using space.

 

It's also really annoying when you have a door within your unit that's locked and you can't access it. Like when things roll into the crack underneath the door and you have to wait for maintenance to retrieve it. Or when curious cats shove their paws underneath and pull out dusty bug carcasses. I definitely prefer the hallway access. Another big advantage is that the corridor access would make the mechanical equipment virtually silent from within the unit.

 

16 hours ago, jmecklenborg said:

So does the bedroom wall go all the way to the ceiling, or are you in darkness?


Pretty sure it goes all the way to the ceiling. Seems like they classify it as a studio because there's no window in the bedroom. Not an ideal layout for people like me who struggle getting up without the help of daylight. 

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38 minutes ago, Largue said:

Pretty sure it goes all the way to the ceiling. Seems like they classify it as a studio because there's no window in the bedroom. Not an ideal layout for people like me who struggle getting up without the help of daylight. 

 

Think of all of the poor cats and dogs that will be cooped up in this building.  Hour after hour after hour of staring out the window.  

 

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35 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

Think of all of the poor cats and dogs that will be cooped up in this building.  Hour after hour after hour of staring out the window.  

 

 

But the owners will spend 10K a year on the dog which the dog won't notice. The dog will think about how they are in a tiny apartment by themselves 10 hours a day though wishing it belonged to a farmer that spends $200 a year on it.

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29 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

 

But the owners will spend 10K a year on the dog which the dog won't notice. The dog will think about how they are in a tiny apartment by themselves 10 hours a day though wishing it belonged to a farmer that spends $200 a year on it.

 

Well if they work downtown at least they can go home at lunch to take the dog out to poop in the Central Parkway median.  

 

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19 hours ago, ryanlammi said:

I also think the hallway would look cluttered with twice as many doors.

 

But I would rather have it in the hallway as a resident. It would be nice if you had to have maintenance fix something, they might not have to come into your apartment. They can just service it from the hallway.

 

Good point... they would have to do less visible doors. Like maybe wall color with no molding and just a sign indicating what it was for. Agreed that having 2x as many of the same door would look cluttered, almost claustrophobic.

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The Husman House in Walnut Hills (1617 E. McMillan St.) has two doors for many units.  The extra door opens directly into the kitchen.  The hallways do not look cluttered. 

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On 8/29/2019 at 4:58 PM, Largue said:

Pretty sure it goes all the way to the ceiling. Seems like they classify it as a studio because there's no window in the bedroom. Not an ideal layout for people like me who struggle getting up without the help of daylight. 

 

I can't speak to that particular unit, but I photographed a one-bedroom unit today on the 11th floor and there was a space in the wall at the top to allow light in from the floor to ceiling windows in the living room adjacent to it.

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Photos of the inside of 1010 On The Rhine apartments. It's still under construction, but the 11th floor with the deep balconied units will be renting as soon as September 6th. While the 18th floor has a higher view, the 11th floor with its private outdoor space would be my personal choice if I chose to live here. They've done a nice job on these.

 

http://cincinnatirefined.com/lifestyle/1010-on-the-rhine-downtown-kroger-gbbn-architects-turner-construction-rookwood-properties-north-american-properties-northpointe-group-urban-living-cincinnati

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On 8/30/2019 at 11:05 PM, Phil said:

I can't speak to that particular unit, but I photographed a one-bedroom unit today on the 11th floor and there was a space in the wall at the top to allow light in from the floor to ceiling windows in the living room adjacent to it.

 

23 hours ago, Phil said:


Looks like you're right. There's an opening at the ceiling to let some light in. At that point, I'd just prefer a half-wall. Then you can delete the hugely expensive barn door and save $50/month in rent lol. But it just seems like they wanted to do a one 1-bedroom apartment, forgot that they needed a window to classify it as 1-bedroom, so they just cut a hole in the bedroom wall. 
 

22 hours ago, seaswan said:

they look nice, but man those appliances are the same ones I have in a crummy college apartment right now

 

Agreed. Seems to be the norm in "luxury" living. 

 

Also, what's up with the flooring? It looks like they wanted to do polished concrete, realized that was too expensive, so they just put down some LVT that kinda-sorta looks like exposed concrete. Another thing that bothers me is the staging/decor. If they're trying to sell urban living, why hire Nancy from Blue Ash to stage the place?

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The cabinetry and woodwork looks pretty bad.  End panels are not well integrated, and I see unpainted edges of baseboards and toe kicks.  At best they'll get slapped with paint, but unlikely to be sanded flush or properly sealed.  Hopefully that'll be caught in the punch-list, and since I still see some painter's tape around that's certainly not done yet.  The cabinets themselves are bog standard commercial full-overlay cheapness though, which is disappointing. 

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19 minutes ago, taestell said:

 

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I don't know why or how those "word" decorations caught on.  It's crazy when you see them in someone's actual house - living as if your house might be photographed for some sort of interior decorating magazine at any moment. In the 70s and 80s people didn't live in houses that were ready to sell at a moment's notice.  I didn't know anyone who had new or matching furniture.  People often had clashing wallpaper in adjacent rooms. 

 

 

 

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I swear I saw both of those pieces at the At Home store in Oakley this weekend.


“All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.”
-Friedrich Nietzsche

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When are cuckoo clocks going to come back into vogue?  Grandfather clocks?  Plates on the walls?  Candles with elaborate holders?  Floral wallpaper?  Wicker baskets?  Old wooden barrels?  Small pastoral paintings in oval frames?  Glass menageries?  Those "ornate" light switches?  

 

How about installing ironic knob & tube wiring?  

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Hummels need to have a new surge in popularity by the time my grandparents die so I can make a profit off those stupid things. 


“To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”

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7 minutes ago, BigDipper 80 said:

Hummels need to have a new surge in popularity by the time my grandparents die so I can make a profit off those stupid things. 

 

Today's kids don't know the creepiness of spending the weekend at grandma's house and all of her creepy tick-tocking clocks.  

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12 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

^That's been replaced with the house phone going off every five minutes with telemarketers and other scams.


House phone? Is that the newest model of iPhone?

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8 minutes ago, Largue said:


House phone? Is that the newest model of iPhone?

 

 

Yes, basically the same but comes pre-loaded with a wide variety of House music ringtones

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On 8/12/2019 at 10:12 PM, lobanio0 said:

So saw today at work(Kroger) that the store opens in 44 days. 😎

 

I’m hearing that the opening date will be announced tomorrow.

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14 hours ago, taestell said:

 

I’m hearing that the opening date will be announced tomorrow.

 

Cincinnati.com: Downtown Kroger to open Sept. 25; hours of operation unveiled

 

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/money/2019/09/09/downtown-kroger-open-sept-25-hours-operation-unveiled/2260677001/

 

6am to 10pm - 7 days a week. 

 

Starbucks will have a carry out window along Court St for customers. 

 

Kinda sucks that they close at 10 but I'm guessing this has to do with a lack of strong downtown urban population to keep them open longer+ shoplifting concerns from the poor residents who live downtown. 

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2 minutes ago, cincydave8 said:

That block of Court Street will have DD, Kitty's and now Starbucks.

 

Starting the hashtag now, #CourtStCoffeeDistrict

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1 hour ago, cincydave8 said:

That block of Court Street will have DD, Kitty's and now Starbucks


I hope it doesn't detract from Coffee Emporium's customers either. 

 

1 hour ago, troeros said:

Kinda sucks that they close at 10 but I'm guessing this has to do with a lack of strong downtown urban population to keep them open longer+ shoplifting concerns from the poor residents who live downtown. 


I'm disappointed too, was hoping they'd be 24 hours. Perhaps they'll start to expand their hours as it gets more populated around the #CourtStCoffeeDistrict 

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I'm predicting a crap ton of uscans.

 

Even at suburban Kroger's you have insanely high turn over and have to consistently rely on flakey high school students. It's been a real struggle for them because of there low union wages compared to say target that employees a cashier at 13 an hour. 

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