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1 hour ago, YABO713 said:

Good!

 

As the previous multi-year reigning NBA champs, they've deserved a much nicer arena than the dump they've been playing in.

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2 hours ago, TBideon said:

Gilbert and friends have leverage to extort the city. Lacob and his pals do not. 

So we’re gonna just sit here and pretend that GSW doesn’t play in the 8th largest media market and the Cavs play in the 19th? We’re gonna sit here and pretend like the economics are the same in both markets? Oh and let’s pretend that the Cavaliers own their arena just like GSW does. I guess it’s just easier to talk about DG “extorting” the city by only putting up half of the money to fix an arena that he doesn’t even own, while GSW pays the full cost for an arena that they fully own, in a market that’s the 8th largest while we’re in market 19. But that context would hurt that false narrative, so sure let’s continue with the “extortion” talk

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6 hours ago, YABO713 said:

The Oracle Arena looked great but the location  in Oakland within a sea of surface lots was terrible, especially for a championship caliber team. Reminds me of the old Coliseum in Richfield. Back then people lived in the burbs so it was no big deal. Now It really enhances the downtown living experience, and thus the real estate values, when you can just walk to the arena rather than drive in bumper to bumper traffic for an hour. Does anyone now how many cities besides Cleveland has three major league venues within walking distance of each other?

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35 minutes ago, shack said:

The Oracle Arena looked great but the location  in Oakland within a sea of surface lots was terrible, especially for a championship caliber team. Reminds me of the old Coliseum in Richfield. Back then people lived in the burbs so it was no big deal. Now It really enhances the downtown living experience, and thus the real estate values, when you can just walk to the arena rather than drive in bumper to bumper traffic for an hour. Does anyone now how many cities besides Cleveland has three major league venues within walking distance of each other?

Off the top of my head....Seattle, Baltimore, Minneapolis, New Orleans, Philadelphia, Denver, Phoenix, Nashville, Cincinnati

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40 minutes ago, Cleburger said:

Off the top of my head....Seattle, Baltimore, Minneapolis, New Orleans, Philadelphia, Denver, Phoenix, Nashville, Cincinnati

Denver?  That's a pretty good hike between Coors Field and Mile High

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45 minutes ago, Cleburger said:

Off the top of my head....Seattle, Baltimore, Minneapolis, New Orleans, Philadelphia, Denver, Phoenix, Nashville, Cincinnati

 

Cincy only has two teams - same with Nawlins

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12 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

 

Cincy only has two teams - same with Nawlins

Not to pile on with the off topic stuff but I believe this is also true of Seattle, Baltimore and Nashville. That list looks suspect @Cleburger  😉

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24 minutes ago, Clvlndr in LV said:

Not to pile on with the off topic stuff but I believe this is also true of Seattle, Baltimore and Nashville. That list looks suspect @Cleburger  😉

I remember reading somewhere that Cleveland was the only city of its size to have three major professional sports team facilities in CBD.

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1 hour ago, Cleburger said:

Off the top of my head....Seattle, Baltimore, Minneapolis, New Orleans, Philadelphia, Denver, Phoenix, Nashville, Cincinnati

More than I thought. This is a general trend than exception for good reason that more cities will follow. 

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2 hours ago, Cleburger said:

Off the top of my head....Seattle, Baltimore, Minneapolis, New Orleans, Philadelphia, Denver, Phoenix, Nashville, Cincinnati

Seattle only has 2 pro teams, Baltimore only has 2 professional teams, So does New Orleans, Phoenix has only the Suns and D-backs downtown, the Cardinals and Coyotes both play in Glendale, Nashville and Cincinnati also only have 2 professional teams. Let's try this again

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5 minutes ago, zbaris87 said:

Baltimore only has 2 professional teams, So does New Orleans, Phoenix has only the Suns and D-backs downtown, the Cardinals and Coyotes both play in Glendale, Nashville and Cincinnati also only have 2 professional teams. Let's try this again

See  post directly above. 

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On 9/3/2019 at 7:55 PM, Frmr CLEder said:

I remember reading somewhere that Cleveland was the only city of its size to have three major professional sports team facilities in CBD.

That's a significant downtown feature that needs to be marketed better so that it is more widely known for any sports fan  who wants to live there. To have season tickets for three different sports teams within walking distance of each other is quite a luxury that only a resident CBD Clevelander can boast about. 

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1 hour ago, shack said:

That's a significant downtown feature that needs to be marketed better so that it is more widely known for any sports fan can who wants to live there. To have season tickets for three different sports teams within walking distance of each other is quite a luxury that only Cleveland can boast about. 

Absolutely!

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When did the LED screen totem get moved from it's northern atrium corner placement to the southern side ?  I never heard of this being moved until the photos were taken

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I have to say I don't like the new signage at all. However or whatever the signs are mounted on make it look incredibly sloppy and hard to read.

 

Minor quibble but 🤷🏻‍♂️

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18 hours ago, dave2017 said:

Sneak peek inside the renovated arena. Also, take notice that the "o" in Rocket has been replaced with circular LED panels 

 

 

 

The comments at the intro were ridiculous.  When was the Q torn down?

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2 hours ago, MyTwoSense said:

The comments at the intro were ridiculous.  When was the Q torn down?

 

MTS, They didn’t tear it down, The atrium was added and the rest of the Q was modernized.

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On 9/3/2019 at 8:51 PM, zbaris87 said:

Seattle only has 2 pro teams, Baltimore only has 2 professional teams, So does New Orleans, Phoenix has only the Suns and D-backs downtown, the Cardinals and Coyotes both play in Glendale, Nashville and Cincinnati also only have 2 professional teams. Let's try this again

Pittsburgh and Detroit

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On 9/19/2019 at 8:34 AM, Enginerd said:

I have to say I don't like the new signage at all. However or whatever the signs are mounted on make it look incredibly sloppy and hard to read.

 

Minor quibble but 🤷🏻‍♂️

Totally Agree. The signage ball was dropped on this thing.

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17 hours ago, MyTwoSense said:

The comments at the intro were ridiculous.  When was the Q torn down?

 

14 hours ago, stpats44113 said:

 

MTS, They didn’t tear it down, The atrium was added and the rest of the Q was modernized.

 

It was in the first few lines of what was said in the video. 

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On 9/19/2019 at 1:11 AM, dave2017 said:

Sneak peek inside the renovated arena. Also, take notice that the "o" in Rocket has been replaced with circular LED panels 

 

 

 

 

This video was 20 seconds of internal construction and five minutes of commentary.  If you actually want a video preview, this is not it.  The commentary was still interesting, but this video was not what I was expecting.

 

It did mention a free ribbon cutting event that will be open to the public next Saturday.  Perhaps some of you would be interested in going and sharing pix and videos.

 

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On 9/3/2019 at 8:51 PM, zbaris87 said:

Seattle only has 2 pro teams, Baltimore only has 2 professional teams, So does New Orleans, Phoenix has only the Suns and D-backs downtown, the Cardinals and Coyotes both play in Glendale, Nashville and Cincinnati also only have 2 professional teams. Let's try this again

 

Cincinnati has 3 major league teams. NFL, MLB, MLS, they'll all be within walking distance once the West End stadium opens in 2021. No, the west end is not in the CBD, but it is just under one mile from PBS and located within the bowl touching OTR. 

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Philly, while they are within walking distance to each other, are off in a desert.  I wouldnt consider this comparable.  There are no residents or guests within walking distance really

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14 hours ago, marty15 said:

Pittsburgh and Detroit

Pittsburgh counts.  I think it's metro population is just slightly larger than Cleveland's.  Metro-Detroit (4M) is twice the size of metro- Cleveland (2M).

Regardless, Cleveland still has 3 professional sports venues downtown, the RRHF, Playhouse Square, CMA (a world reknowned art museum), the Cleveland Orchestra (one of the best orchestras in the world) and CCF (one of the world's best Medical facilities).

 

Who can complain?

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But the population within an hour's drive of downtown Cleveland is closer to Detroit's than it is to Pittsburgh's.

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"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities."-Voltaire

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1 hour ago, DevolsDance said:

 

Cincinnati has 3 major league teams. NFL, MLB, MLS, they'll all be within walking distance once the West End stadium opens in 2021. No, the west end is not in the CBD, but it is just under one mile from PBS and located within the bowl touching OTR. 

MLS isn’t a major sports league. It takes in 1/5 the revenue of ice hockey. It’s only the 9th largest soccer league by revenue, below the Japanese and Chinese leagues. 

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1 hour ago, YABO713 said:

I knew who wrote this the moment I read the headline. https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2019/09/20/dumb-as-rocks-q-renovation-will-do-precisely-what-leaders-feared 

 

Live look at Sam Allard:

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Again, solid points getting lost in an overt bias, which makes the pertinent facts difficult to parse

 

Came here to post as much but you beat me to it. He's literally calling the Q deal the "murder of democracy." Turn everything up to 11, all the time. Can't imagine what it's like to be in his head or the head of those who think that way.

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On 9/3/2019 at 7:51 PM, zbaris87 said:

Seattle only has 2 pro teams, Baltimore only has 2 professional teams, So does New Orleans, Phoenix has only the Suns and D-backs downtown, the Cardinals and Coyotes both play in Glendale, Nashville and Cincinnati also only have 2 professional teams. Let's try this again

They're about to have 3 😉

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7 hours ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

 

 

It was in the first few lines of what was said in the video. 

Thats my point.  Those people knew nothing about the project.

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