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whaddaya all say we get one of these random photos threads going again?  :wave:

 

 

relative sizes in the solar system

 

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cool alien invasion photo i saw on reddit

actually its fireworks

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haha!

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ww2 london blitz buzz bomb

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yikes

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original face of mt. rushmore

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young celebrity law breakers

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planes, trains and automobiles

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old soviet bldg in romania i think

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parade war horns in japan 1930s

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more ww2 - crashed jap zero in pacific

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d-day

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flatiron bldg in nyc construction & first moment of early nuclear bomb explosion

(ehh, probably shouldn't have put those together)

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nutty bomb test viewings era near vegas

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young osama bin laden

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bin laden the hero era

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first digital image of a human

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kubrick & co. on the set of the shining

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a nuclear powered test plane

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overlogging era

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the famous carl sagan inspired pale blue dot earth photo by the voyager spacecraft

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last picture of all the beatles together

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einstein's desk the day he died

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ali wins!

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great sf earthquake

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first photo from space

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last photo of the a-ok titanic

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goofing around on the set of jaws

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first mcdonalds

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civil war era photo…j/k  :laugh:

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not kidding at all here - real civil war photo - antietam

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castro visits moscow

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boston 10/13/1860

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last photo of pink floyd band together

B938C353-BAB5-477F-BE9B-49A5A938D49C_zps1zaawvpi.jpg

 

 

sen. john mccain just after being shot down in 'nam

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first time in chernobyl post meltdown

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christ the redeemer statue construction in rio

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jfk lies in state

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and last but not least -- on the anniversary of the berlin wall coming down

the berlin wall going up

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i hope you enjoyed -- so come on let's rev this up again -- please add your own favorite photo finds    8-)

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i hope others add something -- anyway here are some more  -- enjoy!:

 

 

sr71 blackbird in the lockheed skunkworks factory

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photo of 1st moon landing off of a tv in 1969

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last public execution by guillotine in paris 1939

(last use of guillotine in france was 1977)

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making the academy awards statues

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1st color photo  1861

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measuring women's bathing suit length -- it was illegal to be too short!

A75EA125-1161-4F42-8776-46FEC61C032A_zpsfvvmbiqk.jpg

 

 

the soon to be killed romanov family  1918

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C1381139-3862-4E67-BE63-3AD2D3A5139B_zpsiwrqmuby.jpg

 

 

jfk & marilyn monroe -- thx j edgar hoover!

CB918894-396F-4CEE-9C80-4A1EEFE99BEB_zpsg1ahtfin.jpg

 

 

wtc

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usa troops mocking hitler on the chancellery i think  1945

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9/11

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There's something about the shape of the SR-71 that continues to captivate.  There are a few dozen of them on display around the country and I imagine that in 1,000 years they will still fascinate the public. 

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I saw an ad for this shirt and other similar ones in a Popular Mechanics magazine from 1985

 

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and decided I wanted it. So about 10 years ago I tracked one down on ebay. I thought I was pretty badass until I was in Eastgate Mall about 6 months ago and saw a guy wearing a very similar shirt. He said he just got it at the Dayton Air Show and that they've had them every time he went. So apparently the shirts have been in production for 30 years just like a Def Leppard shirt.

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There's something about the shape of the SR-71 that continues to captivate.  There are a few dozen of them on display around the country and I imagine that in 1,000 years they will still fascinate the public. 

 

There's something about the plane itself.  If there's any evidence at all that we got ahold of advanced technology from "somewhere else", it's the Blackbird.

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i had a few more in the can ---- can anyone add more??

 

 

young bill and hillary clinton

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yikes! a real product from the 'babies need fresh air' craze  (1920s?)

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stock market crash  1929

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creepy mickey mouse club  1930s

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fiat lingotto factory rooftop test track  1923

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bonnie & clyde

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kurt cobain death

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face on mars  1976

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would not move? i dk

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classified apollo 17 photo  1972  j/k! :)

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i remember this was via apod -- horizontal rainbow - taken in ohio

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photoshopping your grown self into your childhood self photos

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a new year a new round

 

 

striped iceburgs

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the phil spector or pharrell of the 1970s georgio moroder

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zero-g physicist stephen hawking

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norway

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new chinese airport

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albino peacock

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charlie chaplin out of character on set

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9/11 as seen from the iss

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1972 presidential candidate george wallace assassination attempt that paralyzed him

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france

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apartheid beach in south africa

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last photo of james dean alive

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u wot m8?

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opening king tut's tomb

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the first cabaret nightclub

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two of detroit

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bosnian bridge jumping

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C719E796-85D0-4709-9443-0F8B440CB3E7_zps0ezpfk20.jpg

 

 

u wot m8? part two

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pripyat russia (chernobyl)

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the soviet buran aka the bootleg space shuttle after its only flight

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hiroshima before/after

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some more that i found interesting!

 

 

queenie the water skiing elephant  1950

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japanese soldier surrenders

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muhammad ali talks down a suicidal person

7DD8BDBA-B8C9-4CE7-9EFA-1AD7F92F12ED_zpsich1yvct.jpg

 

 

ali again goofing on the beatles  1964

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building golden gate  1937

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funeral for tokyo's beloved hachiko

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marilyn monroe & sammy davis jr

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william harley and arthur davidson  1914

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ah-nold's visit to nyc  1968

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how she survived nagasaki  1945

AFF29F02-C65E-4605-8AA2-15EA309F65B1_zpsixko2fz2.jpg

 

 

bruce lee cuttin a rug

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and bruce lee aka the only man to touch chuck norris and live

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on the set of batman tv show  1966

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teen barack obama

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and teenage vladimir putin

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^ nice. thats a great old main street shot. people were proud of them back then.

 

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here is your invitation to the very first hiphop show!

 

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^ nice. thats a great old main street shot. people were proud of them back then.

 

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here is your invitation to the very first hiphop show!

 

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was that your old school? or Sedgwick Ave in the Bronx?

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Pic of Boston 1860's ...from a hot air ballon?

 

Young Bin Laden, much of the arabic muslim world was becoming Western, in case you noticed the clothes.,

until the Zealots took over.

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this picture was taken May 20, 1926, the final day of interurban service to Painesville on the Cleveland, Painesville & Eastern RR...

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to be replaced the following year by the bus shown here (Meadville, PA!) (Note the Utopia Theater from my post of yesterday. Couldn't find a clip of 1927's "Drums of the Desert," but I'm sure we've all seen it!)--

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On the left is Dr. Amy Kaukonen, mayor of Fairport Harbor (reportedly the first female mayor in Ohio and one of the first in the nation), who took office in 1922, cracking down on bootlegging, which apparently was rampant there (well, you know those Finns :drunk:)

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This is a picture of a 2nd grade class in 1942 of the now demolished Lathrop Elementary School in Painesville (shown below). The boy in the middle row, third from the right is writer Harlan Ellison. Ellison, who was born in Cleveland moved to P'ville a couple of years earlier due to (as I had read) a reversal of fortune for his father. What should have been his "wonder years," however, turned into a nightmare for him. Ellison is Jewish and claimed he was mercilessly bullied by classmates. Although by his own admission (again recalling things he has written), he wasn't the easiest person to get along with (not that bullying of any kind--be it based on anti-Semitism or anything else--is excusable; but it was widespread in America in the 40's, not just in small towns). Although I can't find it now (can't even remember the title), he went on to write a short story recalling these experiences, naming the real names of his tormentors. He eventually moved back to Cleveland with his mother after his father died, I believe before he started high school, and was much happier, ironically, going to a Catholic school. But now Painesville loves to claim him as one of their own! Somehow I doubt that all is forgiven--

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^ ellison is well known as a primo curmudgeon so i wouldn't put it on p'villers picking on him for being a jew or whatever even though no doubt that happened to some extent -- he has carried that prickly badge to this day!

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Here's a similar case:

 

These pictures are from the Maple Heights High School 1962 and 1963 yearbooks. 

 

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"Richard Otcasek" seems to look a lot like Ric Ocasek, who is generally known to have gone to high school in the Cleveland area, but no one ever says where. 

 

Everyone knows Benjamin Orr went to Valley Forge, and his roots were hyped on WMMS, who always made a point of mentioning such.  But Ocasek was never talked about.  Not even at Maple, and I went there when the Cars were huge.

 

Here’s the thing.  If this is him, he’d be 3 or 4 years older than his official biography.  Not that unusual during the 60s, is my understanding, and certainly actors do it all the time.  But rumor has it he is very sensitive about his age.

 

Also, he supposedly moved to this area when he was 16 or so.  Maple was a cliqueish town and there’s a good chance that someone “different” didn’t fit in.

 

I once asked someone big in Cleveland rock and roll history, who would probably know, and they evaded the question.  Some Maple people added graduating from Maple to his Wikipedia biography, it was there quite awhile but has been removed.

 

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^ ellison is well known as a primo curmudgeon so i wouldn't put it on p'villers picking on him for being a jew or whatever even though no doubt that happened to some extent -- he has carried that prickly badge to this day!

 

Quotes / by Harlan Ellison

US science fiction author & screenwriter (1934 - )

  • The two most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.
  • Like the wind crying endlessly through the universe, Time carries away the names and the deeds of conquerors and commoners alike. And all that we are, all that remains, is in the memories of those who cared we came this way for a brief moment.
  • What is not nailed down is mine. Anything that I can pry loose was not nailed down.
  • Love ain't nothing but sex misspelled.

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Here's a similar case:

 

These pictures are from the Maple Heights High School 1962 and 1963 yearbooks. 

 

Ocasek.jpg

 

"Richard Otcasek" seems to look a lot like Ric Ocasek, who is generally known to have gone to high school in the Cleveland area, but no one ever says where. 

 

Everyone knows Benjamin Orr went to Valley Forge, and his roots were hyped on WMMS, who always made a point of mentioning such.  But Ocasek was never talked about.  Not even at Maple, and I went there when the Cars were huge.

 

Here’s the thing.  If this is him, he’d be 3 or 4 years older than his official biography.  Not that unusual during the 60s, is my understanding, and certainly actors do it all the time.  But rumor has it he is very sensitive about his age.

 

Also, he supposedly moved to this area when he was 16 or so.  Maple was a cliqueish town and there’s a good chance that someone “different” didn’t fit in.

 

I once asked someone big in Cleveland rock and roll history, who would probably know, and they evaded the question.  Some Maple people added graduating from Maple to his Wikipedia biography, it was there quite awhile but has been removed.

 

 

 

yep i had heard that before -- back in the days when there was a popular rock band called the cars that is.

 

adding another tidbit of trivia to that mini-mystery, he likely must have lived in the area, at least for a time, because his mother lead the ohio state teacher's retirement fund for quite awhile.

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^ ellison is well known as a primo curmudgeon so i wouldn't put it on p'villers picking on him for being a jew or whatever even though no doubt that happened to some extent -- he has carried that prickly badge to this day!

okay, it might have been a little bit of everything. Ellison's short stature would automatically make him a target, and yes, he was probably somewhat of a holy terror even before he started school, but all the anti-Semitism on top of that was still inexcusable, regardless of how common it was back then (again, I emphasize that this sort of attitude was common even in the NYC area, according to older people who grew up here I've talked to, seemingly especially in New Jersey). Here's an excerpt from a People magazine article from December 2, 1985:

 

"Beneath Ellison's bombastic armor is a small boy still battling the demons of his childhood in Painesville, Ohio. His father managed the family jewelry store; his mother tried to manage Harlan. "I was a troublemaker because I was filled with ideas and passion and had no place to put them," says Ellison. "I was also smaller than the smallest girl in my class. My parents gave me shots to make me grow, but I stayed little. I was unathletic and Jewish in a town where there were real anti-Semitic bigots." Comic-book and radio heroes nourished his rich fantasy life, and in a seventh-grade class photo Harlan stands proudly, wearing a Captain Midnight secret decoder badge like a corsage. The real world was more inhospitable. When bullies tossed him around the playground, Harlan learned to fight back. "I'd never let anything pass," he says. "Someone would say any damn thing to me and they'd go to their grave with their teeth in their throat."

 

Ellison's memories are not mere paranoia. "What Harlan remembers is true, and he was hurt by it," says former classmate Jean Pengal, now a housewife in Fairport, Ohio. "People in Painesville were very prejudiced. The bullies called him 'little kike' and 'Jew-boy.' Harlan was very hyper and always clowning. He'd walk around with a hand puppet he called Roscoe. The boys thought he was weird, but he was just very inventive." "

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Here's a similar case:

 

These pictures are from the Maple Heights High School 1962 and 1963 yearbooks. 

 

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"Richard Otcasek" seems to look a lot like Ric Ocasek, who is generally known to have gone to high school in the Cleveland area, but no one ever says where. 

 

Everyone knows Benjamin Orr went to Valley Forge, and his roots were hyped on WMMS, who always made a point of mentioning such.  But Ocasek was never talked about.  Not even at Maple, and I went there when the Cars were huge.

 

Here’s the thing.  If this is him, he’d be 3 or 4 years older than his official biography.  Not that unusual during the 60s, is my understanding, and certainly actors do it all the time.  But rumor has it he is very sensitive about his age.

 

Also, he supposedly moved to this area when he was 16 or so.  Maple was a cliqueish town and there’s a good chance that someone “different” didn’t fit in.

 

I once asked someone big in Cleveland rock and roll history, who would probably know, and they evaded the question.  Some Maple people added graduating from Maple to his Wikipedia biography, it was there quite awhile but has been removed.

 

 

 

yep i had heard that before -- back in the days when there was a popular rock band called the cars that is.

 

adding another tidbit of trivia to that mini-mystery, he likely must have lived in the area, at least for a time, because his mother lead the ohio state teacher's retirement fund for quite awhile.

 

His family definitely moved here when he was 16, his dad worked for NASA.

 

His son was briefly in a band in the late 80s.  His date of birth appears nowhere online, but an early 1989 People magazine story says he was 22, which would mean a 1966 DOB.

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^ ellison is well known as a primo curmudgeon so i wouldn't put it on p'villers picking on him for being a jew or whatever even though no doubt that happened to some extent -- he has carried that prickly badge to this day!

okay, it might have been a little bit of everything. Ellison's short stature would automatically make him a target, and yes, he was probably somewhat of a holy terror even before he started school, but all the anti-Semitism on top of that was still inexcusable, regardless of how common it was back then (again, I emphasize that this sort of attitude was common even in the NYC area, according to older people who grew up here I've talked to, seemingly especially in New Jersey). Here's an excerpt from a People magazine article from December 2, 1985:

 

"Beneath Ellison's bombastic armor is a small boy still battling the demons of his childhood in Painesville, Ohio. His father managed the family jewelry store; his mother tried to manage Harlan. "I was a troublemaker because I was filled with ideas and passion and had no place to put them," says Ellison. "I was also smaller than the smallest girl in my class. My parents gave me shots to make me grow, but I stayed little. I was unathletic and Jewish in a town where there were real anti-Semitic bigots." Comic-book and radio heroes nourished his rich fantasy life, and in a seventh-grade class photo Harlan stands proudly, wearing a Captain Midnight secret decoder badge like a corsage. The real world was more inhospitable. When bullies tossed him around the playground, Harlan learned to fight back. "I'd never let anything pass," he says. "Someone would say any damn thing to me and they'd go to their grave with their teeth in their throat."

 

Ellison's memories are not mere paranoia. "What Harlan remembers is true, and he was hurt by it," says former classmate Jean Pengal, now a housewife in Fairport, Ohio. "People in Painesville were very prejudiced. The bullies called him 'little kike' and 'Jew-boy.' Harlan was very hyper and always clowning. He'd walk around with a hand puppet he called Roscoe. The boys thought he was weird, but he was just very inventive." "

 

nope, i'm not fully buying into his own myth-making. as i said, no doubt he heard it for being jewish, but even if you took that away a rather twisted, sarcastic, misogynistic, weird little owen meany type kid walking around with a hand puppet was enough for him to be targeted by bullies. harlan has always been his own worst enemy.

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I think this is an indication that I have officially run out of noteworthy historic photos to post, but this was the Convenient Food Mart in my little neighborhood, shown here circa late 70's? I love the Cleveland Press van (I think that's what it is). I remember standing in line once as child behind a man with a deep basso voice who grunted to the cashier "You got Tums??" I wasn't sure what they were at the time. I would never have expected decades later that I would be using them myself :-(.  This store, still in business, has been run by the Falcone family, who have been long time grocers in this one time heavily Italian part of town--

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I think this is an indication that I have officially run out of noteworthy historic photos to post, but this was the Convenient Food Mart in my little neighborhood, shown here circa late 70's? I love the Cleveland Press van (I think that's what it is). I remember standing in line once as child behind a man with a deep basso voice who grunted to the cashier "You got Tums??" I wasn't sure what they were at the time. I would never have expected decades later that I would be using them myself :-(.  This store, still in business, has been run by the Falcone family, who have been long time grocers in this one time heavily Italian part of town--

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Back when being open seven days meant something.

 

The Convenients in western Maple saw a lot of my money, now both have the armored glass.  :(  The one closest to my house was best known as the last place Tiffany Papesh was seen.  As of a few years ago there was still a flyer in the window.

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this anti-death penalty rally in downtown Painesville in 1968 was held in response to a notorious murder in which Fred Esherick, a high school sophomore (and classmate of my older brother) stabbed his adoptive father to death. The story made national news (this was before the time killing your parents was as common as it is now!--okay, that was terrible), but ultimately Esherick was not executed. I believe he lives in Minnesota now(?)--

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this anti-death penalty rally in downtown Painesville in 1968 was held in response to a notorious murder in which Fred Esherick, a high school sophomore (and classmate of my older brother) stabbed his adoptive father to death. The story made national news (this was before the time killing your parents was as common as it is now!--okay, that was terrible), but ultimately Esherick was not executed. I believe he lives in Minnesota now(?)--

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His death sentence may have been overturned by the Furman decision, in 1971, which IIRC invalidated all Ohio death sentences.  I'm a little surprised he was ever paroled though.

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