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1 hour ago, KJP said:

Anyone know what this use is? An adult school?

 

Wednesday, November 27th , 2019 AGENDA BOARD OF BUILDING STANDARDS AND BUILDING APPEALS

 

Docket A-226-19 909 Euclid Avenue WARD: 3 (Kerry McCormack) HH Cleveland Huntington L.P., Owner of the B Business- Offices, Laboratories, Adult School High-Rise Building appeals from a NOTICE OF VIOLATION-FAILURE TO REGISTER, dated July 23, 2019; appellant is requesting for nine (9) months to abate the violations.

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/bbs/agenda/2019/AGENDA11272019.pdf

There is also a duplicate docket on that same page for the Garfield bldg. 

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Redirected from the Random Developments thread.....

 

2 minutes ago, freefourur said:

The Centennial is getting close, I think. Finishing up capital stack. I thought KJP was referring to new construction though. 

 

Nope. You got it.

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So glad to hear that this is back on track!  This is such a massive building, it will have a huge impact right in the heart of Downtown.

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2 minutes ago, RE Developer In Training said:

I had heard it would include OZ funding.  I wonder if they can mix LIHTC, Historical, and OZ all in on shabang.  I heard this will be one of the more complicated capital stacks in CLE's recent history. 

There should not be any issues mixing those sources. Sometimes one development will create multiple LLCs for different aspects of a deal to make it work. But yes, this is a complicated deal due to the size of the building.  

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The sheer size of this project should enable them to incorporate multiple mixed-use into the development and therefore multiple funding sources.

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Hope the massive lobby becomes a big hit with pedestrian activity like the rotunda at Heinens for both locals and visitors alike. 

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Um... Excuse me, but... What the what?!

 

Where did this render come from? 

That august old banking hall looks like it's been restyled as... the Paris Opera - only more du-Luxe

 

Edit: It also looks like the floor has been raised to make the room feel more intimate, and perhaps to add room for mechanicals.

 

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49 minutes ago, ExPatClevGuy said:

Um... Excuse me, but... What the what?!

 

Where did this render come from? 

That august old banking hall looks like it's been restyled as... the Paris Opera - only more du-Luxe

 

Edit: It also looks like the floor has been raised to make the room feel more intimate, and perhaps to add room for mechanicals.

 

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My goodness. That’s breathtaking. I love to see Cleveland looking like this 

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1 hour ago, inlovewithCLE said:

My goodness. That’s breathtaking. I love to see Cleveland looking like this 

Magnifique!

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46 minutes ago, ASPhotoman said:

Never seen that rending before. Are there anymore somewhere? 

 

Yes @ASPhotoman. I posted that first rendering in a tweet about the TMUD tax credit. Here are a few more....

 

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54 minutes ago, ASPhotoman said:

WOW. Those are gorgeous. Looks like it'll certainly pay homage to what's looking like the roaring 20's in Cleveland. 

The restaurant concept would be a nice space.  Too bad that in this day and age it will then be populated by poorly dressed 2O somethings in plaid flannel shirts and baseball caps.  Oh my was that an old person's rant?  Yes it was.😀

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6 minutes ago, Htsguy said:

The restaurant concept would be a nice space.  Too bad that in this day and age it will then be populated by poorly dressed 2O somethings in plaid flannel shirts and baseball caps.  Oh my was that an old person's rant?  Yes it was.😀

 

If it's like the Marble Room or Adega, the clientele will present themselves more appropriately.

 

But it will be interesting to see if that can be achieved if the rumored mix of uses, from workforce housing to a high-end restaurant to a five-star hotel come to pass.

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16 minutes ago, Htsguy said:

The restaurant concept would be a nice space.  Too bad that in this day and age it will then be populated by poorly dressed 2O somethings in plaid flannel shirts and baseball caps.  Oh my was that an old person's rant?  Yes it was.😀

Okay boomer... 😉 

 

Kidding...but honestly, having been to Marble Room a couple times I don't see people dressed like that. 20yo's who dine out at higher end restaurants know how to dress. 

 

I'm really excited to see the car showroom in this project. When it was first discussed, I pictured something completely different, and this far exceeds my expectations.

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1 hour ago, KJP said:

 

If it's like the Marble Room or Adega, the clientele will present themselves more appropriately.

 

But it will be interesting to see if that can be achieved if the rumored mix of uses, from workforce housing to a high-end restaurant to a five-star hotel come to pass.

The rendering of the exterior entrance should be a clue as to their target audience, unless there are that many twenty-somethings driving MBs in Cleveland these days. It's crazy, but other cities (NYC) has utilized different entrances/exits for different functional uses; around the corner from one another.

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Now that I'm in front of my desktop, I can also share the plans for the first three floors, starting with the "basement" level....

 

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Just now, freethink said:

@KJP Have you heard that the hotel component is still in play?

Also all that retail scares me. We're just not there yet...

 

Yes. It's newly in play. The previous plan was to have office in there. Their stacking plan on LoopNet still shows the office, not the hotel yet.

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I think it looks absolutely phenomenal and look forward to paying it (It'll always be the old Union Trust) a visit when I'm in town. 

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I know parking downtown is tightening up, but this is ridiculous. Can't they find a garage somewhere?

 

 

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MONDAY, MARCH 16, 2020

nuCLEus and Centennial projects may start this summer

 

Two major development projects in downtown Cleveland could get underway this summer. And we're not just talking about the 23-story City Club Apartments, the 75 Public Square renovation NEOtrans reported on last November, or the site preparations for Sherwin-Williams' new headquarters tower on Public Square that NEOtrans nailed months before it was announced.

Not only are those projects still "go," but so may be the duo of 24-story, new-construction towers comprising the long-planned nuCLEus development. And so might the massive reconstruction of 925 Euclid Ave. into The Centennial be a go. According to several sources who spoke off the record, both projects are on track for the start of construction this summer.

No new features are known for nuCLEus as of yet, but two sources said that The Centennial, a 21-story, 1.3-million-square-foot former office building, is proposed to be renovated with a J.W. Marriott Hotel. That would be Cleveland's first five-star hotel brand since the 17-story Omni International Hotel was demolished in 2000 for the InterContinental Hotel, 9801 Carnegie Ave.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/03/nucleus-and-centennial-projects-may.html

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Centennial is breathtaking. I love this project for several reasons, one of the biggest is it’s like us reclaiming our former opulence. We deserve it damn it. It’s beautiful for our city

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Landing a JW would be big, there aren’t that many. I would think this would help spur some retail development in this part of downtown, such as the corner of the Schofield and all the new empty storefronts going towards Playhouse Square. I usually am all for preserving the original architecture but in this case the addition of the chandeliers is stunning. Will that be allowed under the rules for historic tax credits?

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5 minutes ago, mrclifton88 said:

Landing a JW would be big, there aren’t that many. I would think this would help spur some retail development in this part of downtown, such as the corner of the Schofield and all the new empty storefronts going towards Playhouse Square. I usually am all for preserving the original architecture but in this case the addition of the chandeliers is stunning. Will that be allowed under the rules for historic tax credits?

The chandeliers shouldn't be an issue. Most of the time tax credits will focus on the facade and "bones" of the property being redeveloped from my time as an auditor of projects like these. Also Sinito is an expert at these tax credit deals with years of exp.

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I just cannot stop gawking at these renderings... what stunning design highlighting all the original beauty and detail of the original building.  At the same time everything new, from the proposed canopies outside to the design of the interior fits so flawlessly with the character of the space and even manages to elevate it MORE.  I can't wait to see how this comes to life.

 

And I cannot help but cringe at what a "Miami Beach flair" might have done to this building ... (anyone remember that? 😆) ... very glad Sinitio's designers have good taste lol

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3 minutes ago, mrclifton88 said:

I just cannot stop gawking at these renderings... what stunning design highlighting all the original beauty and detail of the original building.  At the same time everything new, from the proposed canopies outside to the design of the interior fits so flawlessly with the character of the space and even manages to elevate it MORE.  I can't wait to see how this comes to life.

 

And I cannot help but cringe at what a "Miami Beach flair" might have done to this building ... (anyone remember that? 😆) ... very glad Sinitio's designers have good taste lol

Sinito is the perfect fit for this building with what he did with the Garfield. I expect this project to get going once 75 Public Square is completely started.

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10 minutes ago, mrclifton88 said:

And I cannot help but cringe at what a "Miami Beach flair" might have done to this building ... (anyone remember that? 😆) ... very glad Sinitio's designers have good taste lol

 

That was the prior owners, Hudson Holdings, who envisioned that. This is a special, grand, elegant space with few equals in the USA. If renovation gets underway this summer, it should be fully complete when this grand dame celebrates its 100th birthday. To celebrate it with historical, luxurious elements is a great way to proceed, IMHO. 

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28 minutes ago, mrclifton88 said:

And I cannot help but cringe at what a "Miami Beach flair" might have done to this building ... (anyone remember that? 😆) ... very glad Sinitio's designers have good taste lol

 

^ Truth! That was the tackiest statement ever and made me worried we were getting a slightly more upscale version of Joes Crab Shack. 

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fantastic and refreshingly straightforward plans.

 

with a solid marriott hotel brand.

 

its a stunna.

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