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Proposal Calls for Mixed-Use Development at Olympic Site

 

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Developer Kyle Katz has proposed a four-story, 152-unit mixed-use development for the Olympic Swim Club site at 3450 Indianola Avenue in Clintonville. He is pursuing the project with his wife, April Zimmerman Katz, who is the owner of the property and whose grandparents bought the pool in 1938, a year after it was built.

 

Zimmerman Katz said that her grandfather, who passed away in 2012, had been subsidizing the operation of the pool for years. Her cousin, Newt Jones, took over the management of the pool in 2001; since that time membership has halved while expenses have increased by 200 percent.

 

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http://www.columbusunderground.com/proposal-calls-for-mixed-use-development-at-olympic-site-bw1

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WOW!!!  That is something else!  I had no idea the Katz family was involved with this Olympic Swim Club site.

 

I've been hearing about a possible redevelopment of this site.  But I never expected something this good as a replacement.  A real life urban project ... in Clintonville no less.

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The fact that it's in Clintonville means it's either never going to happen or be forced to compromise every decent element of urbanity. 

 

The community outrage over the pool going away is already rampant... despite the fact that they didn't bother to support it financially.   

 

I hold absolutely no hope for this coming to pass.

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Today I saw a "Save Olympic Pool" yard sign on my way home.

 

There's a Facebook page too. 

 

I just don't understand these people.  The pool wasn't good enough to support for years, and now it's suddenly a neighborhood treasure when the owners decided to stop subsidizing it.

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Some revisions to the Olympic development from its web site.  Site plans have also been posted at http://livetheolympic.com/revisions/.

 

- Reduction in overall apartment units from 152 to 138.

 

- The setback from the curb is now 20 feet instead of 16 feet.

 

- Reduction in overall height by 2 feet.  The height of the third floor facing Indianola is now 36 feet.

 

 

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Well I guess that's not so bad to lose height by lowering the commercial ceiling. Personally I am scared of heights and dealing with renovating the space we're in down at the mall and its 12-foot ceilings largely by myself was a daily struggle. I can't do wiring up in the ceiling myself; it's just too scary. I don't know what percentage of retailers have to deal with this but I can't afford to pay someone else every time a florescent light tube or ballast goes out. Thankfully my current employees don't share my phobia.

 

I recently learned this fear would have locked me out of the building trades for sure by opening up a store in a tall ceiling space.

 

I do think the setback increase demand was petty though.

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Uh-oh.  Is this the beginning of the project getting "Clintonvilled"?  (a term coined over at CU)

 

Pool-site developers postpone gathering

Revisions to plan for apartment complex will be considered before moving forward, developers say

BY KEVIN PARKS, THIS WEEK NEWS

Tuesday, September 16, 2014 - 9:17 AM

 

A hoped-for community meeting to help clear the air about the proposed redevelopment of the Olympic Swim Club site will not take place Tuesday, Sept. 23, as had tentatively been planned.

 

In an email sent Sept. 12 to Clintonville Area Commission Chairman Daniel B. Miller, Kyle Katz of Katz Development indicated that a variance request to clear the way for a mixed-use project on the Indianola Avenue property also will not come before the panel at its Oct. 2 meeting.

 

"We are taking time to evaluate all site-development options, including revisions to the current plan," Katz wrote. "We will not be ready to participate in the community meeting on Sept. 23 and will not submit our application to CAC on Oct. 2."

 

MORE: http://www.thisweeknews.com/content/stories/clintonville/news/2014/09/15/pool-site-developers-postpone-gathering.html

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All these people who are worried about traffic want to revive a swimming pool that generated far more traffic.

 

I know, one other thing the article mentions as a "concern" is issues with the sewer system! Is the sewer system at max capacity right now that it can't handle one mid-sized apartment building?

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All these people who are worried about traffic want to revive a swimming pool that generated far more traffic.

 

I know, one other thing the article mentions as a "concern" is issues with the sewer system! Is the sewer system at max capacity right now that it can't handle one mid-sized apartment building?

 

I get the feeling that the opponents are simply throwing crap against the wall and seeing what sticks, but I bet the underlying reasoning for Clintonville being so anti-change and anti-urban anything is because the population is 1. Old, and 2. Very white.  Clintonville has one of the oldest median ages of all Columbus neighborhoods, and is even one of the oldest in the whole metro.  It's also one of the least diverse areas as well.  Throw that combination together, and you get suburban bland mentality with the fear of apartments=criminal behavior.

 

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Clintonville has one of the oldest median ages of all Columbus neighborhoods, and is even one of the oldest in the whole metro. 

 

This needs to be clarified. The northern 2/3 of Clintonville is the part full of elderly whiners.

 

South of N. Broadway is NOT a similar neighborhood to the northern part, and really shouldn't be lumped in the same neighborhood commission as them.

 

Zip code 43202, while it is only half in Clintonville, (and also half in Old North Columbus) is the second densest zip code in Columbus(behind 43201), and is the third youngest zip code (behind 43201 and 43210[which is OSU dorms]).

 

Yes, the southern third of Clintonville is DENSE and YOUNG, and has urban-minded people living in it.

 

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Clintonville has one of the oldest median ages of all Columbus neighborhoods, and is even one of the oldest in the whole metro. 

 

This needs to be clarified. The northern 2/3 of Clintonville is the part full of elderly whiners.

 

South of N. Broadway is NOT a similar neighborhood to the northern part, and really shouldn't be lumped in the same neighborhood commission as them.

 

Zip code 43202, while it is only half in Clintonville, (and also half in Old North Columbus) is the second densest zip code in Columbus(behind 43201), and is the third youngest zip code (behind 43201 and 43210[which is OSU dorms]).

 

Yes, the southern third of Clintonville is DENSE and YOUNG, and has urban-minded people living in it.

 

Okay, but the southern 3rd isn't showing up to development meetings.  It's pretty clear who's in control of that, and that's the Clintonville that's at issue.

 

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Clintonville has one of the oldest median ages of all Columbus neighborhoods, and is even one of the oldest in the whole metro. 

 

This needs to be clarified. The northern 2/3 of Clintonville is the part full of elderly whiners.

 

South of N. Broadway is NOT a similar neighborhood to the northern part, and really shouldn't be lumped in the same neighborhood commission as them.

 

Zip code 43202, while it is only half in Clintonville, (and also half in Old North Columbus) is the second densest zip code in Columbus(behind 43201), and is the third youngest zip code (behind 43201 and 43210[which is OSU dorms]).

 

Yes, the southern third of Clintonville is DENSE and YOUNG, and has urban-minded people living in it.

 

Okay, but the southern 3rd isn't showing up to development meetings.  It's pretty clear who's in control of that, and that's the Clintonville that's at issue.

 

I happen to live in Clintonville (43202) and would love to be a pro-development voice at those meetings, but work a crappy job and am normally not available to attend the meetings. Maybe I could voice my opinion via e-mail?

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The prognosis for the Olympic Swim Club development proposal doesn't look too good.  But if the Clintonville residents opposing it thought this would give the Olympic Swim Club a new lease on life, they thought wrong:

 

'Olympic pool in Clintonville gone for good - Demolition begins at pool site as land's future remains undetermined':  http://www.thisweeknews.com/content/stories/clintonville/news/2015/03/13/olympic-pool-gone-for-good.html

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The prognosis for the Olympic Swim Club development proposal doesn't look too good.  But if the Clintonville residents opposing it thought this would give the Olympic Swim Club a new lease on life, they thought wrong:

 

'Olympic pool in Clintonville gone for good - Demolition begins at pool site as land's future remains undetermined':  http://www.thisweeknews.com/content/stories/clintonville/news/2015/03/13/olympic-pool-gone-for-good.html

 

Hope the neighbors like their vacant lot!

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The revised plans for the Olympic Swim Club development are coming before the Clintonville Area Commission on Thursday, May 7.  In anticipation of a large crowd, the CAC has moved the meeting to a larger venue:

 

http://www.thisweeknews.com/content/stories/clintonville/news/2015/04/28/expecting-throng-cac-moves-meeting-to-church.html

 

Passed the CAC zoning panel 6-0:

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2015/05/06/olympic-swim-clubredevelopment-clears-clintonville.html

 

On to the full CAC meeting tonight.

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And that's that.

 

Olympic apartment, retail project in Clintonville gets final OK

 

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The project replacing the former Olympic Swim Club in Clintonville has gotten its final zoning approval.

 

Columbus City Council on Monday unanimously approved the zoning for developer Kyle Katz’s plan for 114 apartments and 5,000 square feet of street-level retail, ending a year-long saga for the 3450 Indianola Ave. site.

 

More below:

http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/blog/2015/07/olympic-apartment-retail-project-in-clintonville.html

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The original proposal was better IMO, but I'm glad this is finally happening. Now we only need about a dozen more projects like this along Indianola...

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