freethink Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Indians communication dude says, @joelhammond says @The9CLE billboard will be OFF during games Also-The renovation architect was interviewed post-game. Sean Plunkett from WMF. I'm guessing the changes from what was originally proposed came from the Indians. Probably cost/time constraints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRIVE2THRIVE Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I like the idea of the terraces, or upper deck boxes as they are being called. But they so should have used glass or metal railings. Here are few more pictures of the ballpark. http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20150406/FREE/150409911/progressive-field-looks-revitalized-after-26-million-renovation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestChamp Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Two things: 1. The other parts of the renovation do look to have been done well. Unfortunately the terrace boxes are the most visible part of the renovation and they were done so poorly that that's really all you can see / focus on. 2. It is interesting to note that the Browns and Cavs each completed or proposed more sweeping (and expensive) updates to their facilities while also asking for public dollars. While this renovation definitely looks value driven, it did not include public dollars. I guess I'm using that rationale to find some favor-ability in this situation. Local dollars can certainly be put to more pressing needs than paying for stadium updates that owners should pay for. I'm curious how other UO posters feel about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPH2 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Some more pictures from last night: https://picasaweb.google.com/113599807126471817966/ProgressiveField?authkey=Gv1sRgCOuvhLS8lbXhJw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Indians communication dude says, @joelhammond says @The9CLE billboard will be OFF during games Why? Would it be in the line of sight with the batter and distracting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whipjacka Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 possibly. thats why there is black in most center fields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPH2 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Indians communication dude says, @joelhammond says @The9CLE billboard will be OFF during games Why? Would it be in the line of sight with the batter and distracting? Exactly. All ballparks have a "batter's eye" section of the ballpark that is a solid color and void of any fans. The video board wasn't so much an issue last year because it was blocked by the market pavilion and bridge. But now that it's open out in center field, the batter would have a more clear view of the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freethink Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Tito should have a remote control so he can turn the video board back on when the other side is at bat :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mov2Ohio Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Indians communication dude says, @joelhammond says @The9CLE billboard will be OFF during games Why? Would it be in the line of sight with the batter and distracting? Yes. Geis and the MLB came to an agreement to have the sign static during games in exchange for concessions concerning traffic control on the east side of Bolivar Road. Reason being the distraction the video message boards create to players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlazar Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Some more pictures from last night: Thanks for sharing these images...the "Corner"-bar looks to be about the coolest thing I've seen at a ballpark in some time. IMHO, of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPH2 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 You've. Got. To. Be. Kidding. Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleburger Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Spot on Twitter post. It looks like something the Sandusky Speedway would do, not a MLB park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMH Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I just took a walk over to Progressive Field to see the progress on the "containers" in right field. They are currently putting what appears to be a wallpaper type of cover so that the middle row of "containers" will be green. As much as I hate this look, the green may help to mitigate this disaster. If only they had installed glass or metal bar fencing around the top of the "containers" instead of the solid wall, it would have been so much more appealing. In time I guess I will get used to it. Fortunately, my seats are in the lower section of right field so I will not be able to see the "containers" above me. I pity the folks on the third base side. They will have to look at the "containers" for the entire game. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJP Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Another pic from that Twitter account: From the Indians: “What is the meaning of this city? Do you huddle close together because you love each other?” Or “We all dwell together to make money from each other”? -- TS Eliot’s The Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPH2 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 My last update on the upper deck fiasco. Unfortuantely the green now complete on the middle section doesn't make it any better. Even worse, and it's hard to tell in the picture, the boxes in the corner are covered in a green tarp. It's pretty windy tonight so you could clearly see them blowing a bit in the wind. Obviously (hopefully) just a temporary fix for the opening series, but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevelander17 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 This design are terrible on a number of levels, but it might be mitigated if the boxes weren't all different sizes and if the ads weren't put on them. I just don't understand hoq they thought this would look okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPH2 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 This design are terrible on a number of levels, but it might be mitigated if the boxes weren't all different sizes and if the ads weren't put on them. I just don't understand hoq they thought this would look okay. I agree. This was done terribly on a large scale, but quite a few small scale things they could have done to make it less terrible. I feel like I'm constantly beating a dead horse with this, but I'm just so angry about it that I need to vent often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave68 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I completely agree. The choices made from the initial design to the end product show how many bad decisions were made. We were all sold a bill of goods that were not deliverable as rendered. Funny how the organization has kept this part of the renovation out of the press. I am waiting for the spin they will put on these, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPH2 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 But not to be a total debbie downer, as a I said before, everything else looks great. I didn't take any pictures of it tonight, but I really liked what they did with the area outside of gate C. The flagpoles are up finally too. I also noticed tonight they they have renamed all of the gates. Gate C is now the Right Field Gate, Gate A is the Left Field Gate, and Gate D is the Infield Gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave68 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Are the "who's on first" granite blocks still at gate C? I also wish Progressive Field could have limited the additional corporate logos. The "New Era" pro shop and "Key Bank" on the light posts are just a couple of examples. Yes most of the rework is good but the finishes are all odd choices. Also, I noticed the new center area seating has a major trip factor. This can be seen in the photo posted earlier by KJP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whipjacka Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 This design are terrible on a number of levels, but it might be mitigated if the boxes weren't all different sizes and if the ads weren't put on them. I just don't understand hoq they thought this would look okay. They aren't ads; the tribe is honoring 'community partners'. I do love what they did to the gate on E9th, though. That was the type of renovation that we all can get behind. They created interaction with the street, took down a skywalk, and added retail. Before, that gate felt like you were sneaking in the back door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrnyc Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 My last update on the upper deck fiasco. Unfortuantely the green now complete on the middle section doesn't make it any better. Even worse, and it's hard to tell in the picture, the boxes in the corner are covered in a green tarp. It's pretty windy tonight so you could clearly see them blowing a bit in the wind. Obviously (hopefully) just a temporary fix for the opening series, but still... why robinson, a large name, on the smallest box? it looks almost disrespectful. they couldnt have moved frank robinson and the fans to the larger boxes just to the right and left those tiny boxes in the corner blank to keep it more balanced and uniform looking? eh. this will take some getting used to. question - can anybody go up and sit in the new terrace areas during the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E Rocc Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 My last update on the upper deck fiasco. Unfortuantely the green now complete on the middle section doesn't make it any better. Even worse, and it's hard to tell in the picture, the boxes in the corner are covered in a green tarp. It's pretty windy tonight so you could clearly see them blowing a bit in the wind. Obviously (hopefully) just a temporary fix for the opening series, but still... why robinson, a large name, on the smallest box? it looks almost disrespectful. they couldnt have moved frank robinson and the fans to the larger boxes just to the right and left those tiny boxes in the corner blank to keep it more balanced and uniform looking? eh. this will take some getting used to. question - can anybody go up and sit in the new terrace areas during the game? That's Jackie Robinson, not Frank, and since he never played either for or against the Indians, it's apropos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrnyc Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 oh yeah i must still be drunk lol, but regardless its not apropos to put baby in the corner like that along with the fans logo. it doesnt look balanced right squeezed in on the littlest boxes, they are mismatched with the others when they dont need to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPH2 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Are the "who's on first" granite blocks still at gate C? I also wish Progressive Field could have limited the additional corporate logos. The "New Era" pro shop and "Key Bank" on the light posts are just a couple of examples. Yes most of the rework is good but the finishes are all odd choices. Also, I noticed the new center area seating has a major trip factor. This can be seen in the photo posted earlier by KJP. Yes, they moved the "Who's on first" to the area just north of Eagle and south of Bolivar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StapHanger Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 They were much less conspicuous, but I really liked the old placement of the retired numbers on the wide support walls underneath the rf upper deck. Those wall segments look naked to me now. I guess they needed to put something on the new box things, though. Maybe Maersk and Hanjin logos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StapHanger Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Some cool time-lapse footage of the good parts of the renovations: http://m.mlb.com/cle/video/v66736883/watch-a-timelapse-of-the-progressive-field-evolution/?partnerId=as_cle_20150410_43587826&adbid=586527136158060546&adbpl=tw&adbpr=52861612 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML11 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 The rest of the updates look fantastic, and even the jury boxes aren't as jarring as they were (to me) at first. The Indians already had some of the most affordable tickets and food/bev options in the league. Then they went and upgraded the food/bev with local flavor and built what looks like an awesome new destination in the bar. The team is coming off 2 consecutive winning seasons, the FO just locked up the CY YOUNG winner for the rest of the decade, and many national outlets are picking them as a leading contender and/or World Series winner. All of this privately financed, without major ticket price increases, by a (*gasp*) Cleveland-based ownership. Let's Go Tribe! /Opening Day tangent-rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ93 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 It's opening day, so I'm going to be positive. The green covering / liner whatever makes an improvement, if for no other reason than it breaks up the wall of beige that was there before. It doesn't look quite as much like something my kids would have made in Minecraft. I like the idea of the boxes, and I think it will be fun to sit there. I just hope someone latches on to the idea of improving the rails so that they are more transparent / less foreboding. I think that will be the difference maker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPH2 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Another cool feature: there are plaques outside the right field gate commemorating the Indian's WS wins and AL pennants as well as all the players with retired numbers. And I really love the addition of the Cleveland and Ohio flags on either side of the U.S. flag. I'd venture to say that's the largest Cleveland flag in the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mildtraumatic Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 What service do the boxes serve again? Can you stand on them?? If i was at a game, I'd find them to be a distraction. My eyes would keep wondering up to them and thinking WTF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StapHanger Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 There are standing room/group event spaces on top of them: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyehrtfood Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I thought the comments on the right field upper deck in this forum were unnecessarily harsh (especially considering this was privately funded).... UNTIL I sought out some images of Coors Field's seamlessly (elegantly) done party terraces/bar - which look like wide, inviting, exciting spaces... After seeing those, I agree that ALL your comments are accurate. This looks horrible. It could be greatly improved even by simply connecting the individual boxes ao they look more like one wide deck like at Coors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StapHanger Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 ^Already mentioned upthread, but I think it's unfair to compare this to other parks' initial build-out. It's a retrofit of a raked seating deck. Unless they increased the budget tenfold to allow for structural changes, there was no way this project was ever going to look as seamless as that part of Coors, which was part of that park's original plan. Don't think they can connect the boxes, because they need the tunnels for access to the remaining seating areas from the concourse. The sin here is cheaping out on the finishes and some horrible design choices even within their constraints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPH2 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Apparently upgrading the sound system wasn't part of the renovations. Hopefully that's on the list for next offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestChamp Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 ^Already mentioned upthread, but I think it's unfair to compare this to other parks' initial build-out. It's a retrofit of a raked seating deck. Unless they increased the budget tenfold to allow for structural changes, there was no way this project was ever going to look as seamless as that part of Coors, which was part of that park's original plan. Don't think they can connect the boxes, because they need the tunnels for access to the remaining seating areas from the concourse. The sin here is cheaping out on the finishes and some horrible design choices even within their constraints. The Rooftop Party Deck at Coors Field was not part of Coor's Field's original plan. But you're right it is still not apples to apples, because according to this article from the Denver Post, they did "an extensive redesign and renovation to the upper right-field seating area and concourse." http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_24275380/rockies-unveil-plan-bar-restaurant-upper-deck-right For the $25M the Indians spent we were never going to get a redesign of the upper deck while I'm sure the Rockies spent substantially more to redesign the actual stadium (I'd be curious to know how much more, this article doesn't say). I was ok with that since the Indians did not ask for public dollars, but they totally cheaped out on the design and materials used for these boxes and it shows. And that takes away from some great work they did on the concourse and concession areas. There is an article in today's PD that shows the middle boxes painted green, which does help some, and shows some of the better aspects of this project. http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2015/04/9_things_about_progressive_fie.html#incart_big-photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StapHanger Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Yikes, shame on me for just assuming stuff. Thanks for the correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrclifton88 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Went to the game today and personally thought everything looked awesome in person except the boxes. They looked less horrible to me inside the field but still need some help.... They just stand out way too much and they aren't painted green. It's like a tarp-like covering that's solid green but can be changed out to have a logo on it. Not the greatest look. The corner bar and new food options were very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPH2 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I reluctantly ventured to the upper deck on opening day to grab some shots. Warning Graphic Content: Some viewers may find the following images disturbing The old visitors bullpen was pretty cool though: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestChamp Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Man those stairways are claustrophobia-inducing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave68 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 From The Indians guest services and the upper deck terraces. " please note this area of the ballpark is not open every game, only for games such as Opening Day when we are approaching or are sold out or for a large group sale who purchased that area" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whipjacka Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 ...sigh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freethink Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 From The Indians guest services and the upper deck terraces. " please note this area of the ballpark is not open every game, only for games such as Opening Day when we are approaching or are sold out or for a large group sale who purchased that area" Hmm...I was not aware of that. Thnx for that info. Guess I will have to wait for 'such as' opening day for a closer look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freethink Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Get ready to move this thread back to 'active' status. And as I suggested a couple of pages back of how out of date the scoreboard is looks like plans are being put together to have it replaced. http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/05/cleveland_indians_plan_20_mill.html#incart_m-rpt-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPH2 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Some more news on phase II of the renovations. Time to move this thread back to active projects? Next phase of Progressive Field renovations likely will include removal of seats under overhang Jeff Thomas thinks the Cleveland Indians season tickets he has in the fifth row of Section 254, which offer a perfect view of home plate, are the best “dollar-for-dollar” deal at Progressive Field. There's just one problem: He's been told his seats won't be around in 2016. According to three Tribe customers who spoke with Crain's, the Indians recently notified season-ticket holders in the 200 level at Progressive Field — the 13 sections of seats under the overhang that stretch from home plate down the third-base line — that they are removing those seats to open up the main concourse. The work would be part of the second phase of renovations at the 21-year-old ballpark, which underwent a $26 million, privately funded facelift prior to the 2015 season. http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20150726/NEWS/307269994/next-phase-of-progressive-field-renovations-likely-will-include Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPH2 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Indians unveil latest Progressive renovations By Jordan Bastian / MLB.com | @MLBastian | August 11th, 2015 CLEVELAND -- The Indians spent last offseason giving Progressive Field a facelift, dramatically changing the center-field entrance and creating the popular Right Field District. The response to the ballpark upgrades from fans has been overwhelmingly positive this season. Even more enhancements are coming, too. On Wednesday, the Indians revealed details of the second phase of their multi-phase renovations for the ballpark. Cleveland plans on extending the changes made in center and right field throughout the main concourse, and will be working this winter to add new concessions, constructing a new club located behind home plate and adding more elements to celebrate the team's history. http://m.indians.mlb.com/news/article/142539346/indians-announce-progressive-field-renovations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freethink Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I hope an updated scoreboard is still in the works as was reported earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPH2 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I was also hoping for a mention of fixing the monstrosity that is the right field upper deck... I love the idea of opening up the concourse to the field though. That will be a great change and really raise Progressive Field to a higher class of ballparks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevelander17 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I like these ghost fans that appear in the pictures. Kind of like what we have now down at the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freethink Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 So here is the new scoreboard announcement from the PD. http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/08/gateway_approves_16_million_re.html#incart_m-rpt-1 It sounds like the footprint of the scoreboard will remain the same but the actual video display will cover the whole area, in other words there will be no static advertising boards it will all be HD display from corner to corner. In comparison First Energy's new scoreboard is 40×172 this will be 60×237. I was hoping it would be less horizontal and more vertical to open up a better view of the city. Something like KC's new scoreboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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