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I really think Smitherman is a POS and probably using this as an angle to get re-elected, but it is nice that people are willing to make an effort to catch some of these criminals.


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I can not believe that Smitherman is still eligible for one additional four-year term. I can not wait until the day we no longer have to deal with this obstructionist.

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Yeah, he was the one guy who lucked out with how the 4-year term charter amendment was written. 

 

Sittenfeld, Seelbach, and Simpson lucked out as well since they each had one two-year term starting in 2011, a four-year term starting in 2013, and are eligible for one more four-year term.

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Smitherman just on 700WLW completely backing up Cranley's effort to force Harry Black to resign. 

 

So what kind of dirt does Cranley have on Smitherman that forces Smitherman to back his every impulse?  Or is Cranley actually setting Smitherman up for failure in 3 years to Sittenfeld by eroding his support from Afro-American groups? 

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Funny how this "Gang of Five" phrase has caught on with the WLW crowd. City Council is made up of 9 members, so another name of this group would be "The Majority."

 

'The Majority' is the secret pet name the Mayor has given himself though.......

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There was a "gang of five" led by Qualls under Mallory.  I remember going to the old people's home back then and hearing the old ladies complain about this sinister "gang of five".  Oh, and they send check to Chris Smitherman. 

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Smitherman calls colleagues ‘evil’ amidst text flap

 

Vice Mayor Christopher Smitherman described some of his Cincinnati City Council colleagues as “evil” on Monday, accusing them of trying to drag him into a controversy over their text messages. 

 

Smitherman’s comments came as council’s Budget and Finance Committee considered a measure to allow the city solicitor’s office to resume representing council members P.G. Sittenfeld, Wendell Young, Tamaya Dennard, Chris Seelbach and Greg Landsman, all progressive Democrats, in a case about whether the five of them violated the state’s Open Meetings Act in a group text between them. Smitherman is an independent.

 

Derek Bauman, a former City Council candidate and activist, attempted to intervene in the case and make Smitherman a defendant because he sent texts with eight other council members and then-City Manager Harry Blackin a separate exchange. Judge Robert Ruehlman denied Bauman’s motion. Bauman is an ally of some of the five whose texts are being sought, and lawyer Paul DeMarco, who represented him, is a prominent Democrat who helped lead a political action committee on behalf of Sittenfeld during his unsuccessful 2014 U.S. Senate campaign.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/10/29/smitherman-calls-colleagues-evil-amidst-text-flap.html


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Just now, Robuu said:

City politics is going full Trump. ?

 

A full dump of Smitherman's scandalous communications wouldn't matter.  All of the little old ladies who donate to his campaigns would still write their checks. 

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Landsman, Smitherman spar as council votes for city lawyers to represent members in texting cases

 

Cincinnati City Council voted Wednesday to have the city solicitor represent five council members whose text messages are being sought in several lawsuits, shedding outside attorneys that were hired to represent both them and the city several weeks ago.

 

But the vote sparked a tense exchange between Vice Mayor Christopher Smitherman, an independent, and Councilman Greg Landsman, a Democrat, over comments Smitherman made on Monday. At council’s budget committee, Smitherman described Landsman and the four other Democrats involved in the case as “evil” because of an attempt made by Derek Bauman, a former City Council candidate with close ties to Councilman Chris Seelbach, to bring him into the case because of texts he sent.

 

Bauman attempted to intervene in one of the text message cases that contends that Landsman, Seelbach and council members P.G. Sittenfeld, Wendell Young and Tamaya Dennard violated the state Open Meetings Act in a group texts between the five. Bauman contended a separate string of texts involving Smitherman, former City Manager Harry Black and the other eight council members, also violated the Open Meetings Act. 

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/10/31/landsman-smitherman-spar-as-council-votes-for-city.html


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Leaders call on Vice Mayor Smitherman to apologize for ‘evil’ accusation, alleged threat

 

A group of community leaders wants Vice Mayor Christopher Smitherman to apologize for remarks he made to Councilman Greg Landsman earlier this week and denounce his longtime political ally’s comments, which they say are anti-Semitic. 

 

On Monday, Smitherman blasted Landsman and four other Democrats being sued over text messages they exchanged as “evil” because of an attempt made by Derek Bauman, a former council candidate with close ties to Councilman Chris Seelbach, to bring Smitherman into the case because of texts he sent all nine council members.

 

The letter, signed by 22 leaders, including council members, labor leaders, a school board member, a former judge, philanthropists, clergy and others, alleges that Smitherman turned off his microphone and said, “You don’t even want to know what I’m capable of.”

 

It also references a letter written by close Smitherman political ally and onetime aide, Tracy Gragston, to some council members, which also says they “did evil towards the vice mayor and his family.”

 

“Councilmember Landsman shouldn’t hide behind Star of David and synagogue shootings as a cover for evil. The Bible says not to use your freedom as a cover to do evil. Taxpayers deserve better,” Gragston wrote. 

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/11/02/leaders-call-on-vice-mayormitherman-to-apologize.html


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The Hamilton County Commission's three seats are now held by three Democrats.  There won't be an opening until Portune retires, but we might see Smitherman formally declare himself a Republican in order to gain some modicum of a chance of winning a seat, OR we might see him suddenly claim to be a Democrat. 

 

He's an Independent, of course.  Because he's so amazing. 

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I've heard Dumas has a history of being anti-LGBT. I don't know details, but it could leave her vulnerable to a primary or a Republican like Seth Maney or Jeff Pastor.

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It's rare that my political views align with Christopher Smitherman.  Regardless, my heart goes out to him and all of his family.  48 years old is way too young to lose your spouse to cancer.

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I didn't realize that Smitherman's dad was a high-up chemist at P&G back in the day. Although I guess I shouldn't be surprised, with how much influence Cincinnati's major companies have on City Hall. 


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Not going into any of the politics part, but timing wise did anyone even have access to this particular email exchange before Mrs Smitherman passed away? How did the family find out about them prior to the public release or were they just guessing what was going to be in the mails between two council people? Finally why in the world would such a thing be shared with a woman who was so ill in her final days? WTF people?!?

 

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Both sides should be ashamed of their actions.   It's a pretty low blow on PG's behalf to take shots at a council opponent whose wife was suffering from terminal cancer, and it's an equally low blow for Smitherman to have his wife record a message like this.  Both sides need to grow up and move on from this.

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This is so strange to me.

 

1.) How did Mr. Smitherman know that there were texts/e-mails talking about his wife? The only thing I can think of was that he saw a text or something sent to Sittenfield or Seelbach between the two during a meeting or something.

 

2.) The actual text in question was after his wife had died, so he had her record a message attacking Sittenfield before anything was even out in the open?

 

3.) If it wasn't clear already this was all orchestrated by COAST/Smitherman to gain an advantage in the Mayoral Election

 

4.) What was actually on record of what Sittenfield said wasn't really all that bad, though ignorant. That said, I don't know many people who would have reacted differently than what Sittenfield said, maybe a member of the church or something, especially when talking with a close friend in one-on-one texts. He never once made a mockery of cancer or made light that she was suffering or on her deathbed.

 

5.) Maybe Sittenfield should have made an announcement in response to Smitherman on the radio show like: "I did not imply Smitherman does not support inclusion, it was a simple mistake as I wanted to introduce this and knew he couldn't sign because he was with his wife, so my apologies for my mistake in putting it out there and creating the false narrative that I was implying that he doesn't support this. That wasn't my intention at all and my thoughts and prayers are with him and the rest of his family at this very difficult time."

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29 minutes ago, IAGuy39 said:

2.) The actual text in question was after his wife had died, so he had her record a message attacking Sittenfield before anything was even out in the open?

 

 

I think you're confusing something. The text messages predate her death by about one year. 2018 vs. 2019

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17 minutes ago, ryanlammi said:

 

I think you're confusing something. The text messages predate her death by about one year. 2018 vs. 2019

 

Ah shoot, I got it and well understood, I was so very confused on that. All that said, still strange Smitherman would have known about disparaging texts unless something got leaked (seems strange/impossible Seelbach would leak a Sittenfield text) OR there is an e-mail that got forwarded.

 

Lastly and this is conspiracy level but definitely doesn't seem too far out there, their phones were tapped by the lawyers/police/someone or someone was stealing iPhone messages/hacked their iCloud accounts.

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This court case had been going on for a long time. I think the plaintiffs had access to the texts way before they were released to the public. I'm not sure what they were allowed to legally disclose about what they had seen. That's a question for a lawyer. 

 

The existence of text messages was known for a while. Rumors were also swirling about what was in them. Not sure how long ago COAST got to view them.

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6 minutes ago, ryanlammi said:

This court case had been going on for a long time. I think the plaintiffs had access to the texts way before they were released to the public. I'm not sure what they were allowed to legally disclose about what they had seen. That's a question for a lawyer. 

 

The existence of text messages was known for a while. Rumors were also swirling about what was in them. Not sure how long ago COAST got to view them.

 

 

OK it is starting to make more sense now, thanks for clarifying. Still, I wonder if that would be illegal for the lawyers to leak info to Smitherman. I am sure they didn't do anything illegal by doing that, they probably said something like, "If this is able to get out you will have some stuff to work with in regards to these guys saying something disparaging about your wife", though honestly it is a reach to say they did say anything disparaging or said anything offensive to his wife. The basically said it was messed up how he brought his wife into the discussion though I can see on both sides how Smitherman would be upset about what happened at that time. Still, having his wife make a recording saying stuff like "Your parents are probably ashamed of you" is like, to me at least, pretty freaking nuts, especially considering she shouldn't have known and Smitherman shouldn't have known what the texts actually said. Lastly, after what they said was released I still wouldn't think it would warrant that type of response from Mrs. Smitherman since they didn't attack her at all.

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2 hours ago, Wally said:

Both sides should be ashamed of their actions.   It's a pretty low blow on PG's behalf to take shots at a council opponent whose wife was suffering from terminal cancer, and it's an equally low blow for Smitherman to have his wife record a message like this.  Both sides need to grow up and move on from this.

 

Honestly, I'm still trying to figure out how what PG said was bad. He privately, to a friend, expressed that it was low for Smitherman to use his wife's cancer for political gain. That seems like a pretty reasonable idea to express and one most would agree with. And it seems even more reasonable now that we have Smitherman blatantly proving that he is willing to use his wife's cancer for political gain. 

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1 hour ago, DEPACincy said:

 And it seems even more reasonable now that we have Smitherman blatantly proving that he is willing to use his wife's cancer for political gain. 

 

It was front page news a week before the last council election.  The Enquirer sent a photographer into his home.  He won thousands of sympathy votes thanks to that article, especially from old people. 

 

The scene at the old people's home is crazy.  They're all about Chris Smitherman.  I see them sitting in the lounge watching his nutty public access show.  His literature is sitting all over the place. 

 

His entire political thrust is seducing the elderly.  That's why he speaks in stunted Trump-type language.   Send me money, little old ladies.  Out come the checkbooks, pens shaking. 

 

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