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Cleveland Athletic Club building could be in line for hotel makeover

By STAN BULLARD

12:43 pm, February 4, 2013

 

Plans to rejuvenate the shuttered Cleveland Athletic Club building, this time as a Crowne Plaza Hotel, surfaced today, Feb. 4, as hotel management and development concern Dellisart LLC of Roswell, Ga., announced it has been awarded a contract to operate a 194-room Crowne Plaza there.

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20130204/FREE/130209933

 

Should this get its own thread? 

 

Btw, while this is fantastic news, I can't help but continue to fret over the Schofield Building/Kimpton Hotel conversion.  Those guys just can't seem to close the deal.

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From their press release:

 

"The renovation plans are still going through the design process and are slated for onsite work to commence shortly. Dellisart has already begun the pre-opening process in anticipation for the new hotel."

 

Sounds like they're trying to fast track this thing.  Hope they succeed!

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Wow, this sure came out of nowhere (not counting the old, non-specific public aspirations of the owner). Obviously one in the hand is worth two in the bush, so this is great news if it has real juice behind it, but I can't help but think how much happier i'd be to see one of the sexier brand proposals moving ahead... And the CAC is actually the least blight-y site of all the main hotel proposals in that area.

 

This bit from the Crain's article is also quite interesting...quite a throwback if they're really planning on for-sale units:

 

the renovation will include a restaurant, health club, and upscale condominiums.

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Mast climbers were attached to the facade a week or two ago. It was obvious something was gearing up. I was waiting for some kind of press release. Glad to hear the good news. :clap:

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Mast climbers were attached to the facade a week or two ago. It was obvious something was gearing up. I was waiting for some kind of press release. Glad to hear the good news. :clap:

 

Yes, I've also noticed activity around the facade in recent days/weeks and wondered what is going on there. Maybe its related to this announcement. At least I hope so!

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When I saw this I thought it was an ancient thread of some long-dead proposal. Shocked this came out of seemingly nowhere. Lets hope they push through and MAYBE get some hotels at the other end of the street MOVING. (I'm looking at YOU "le Meridien")

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I'll be interested to see how they handle the entrance and any vehicular drop off zone.  That stretch of sidewalk in front is really tight as it is, plus the intersection with E. 12th complicates things.  I wonder if they could reduce eastbound travel to one lane and modify the signal to be similar to they way E. 6th currently works, with eastbound getting its own exclusive green.

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Local developer, New York investor lay plans for Cleveland Athletic Club hotel conversion

By STAN BULLARD

2:45 pm, February 5, 2013

 

More details surfaced today on plans to rejuvenate the mothballed Cleveland Athletic Club building as a Crowne Plaza Hotel.

 

Ned Weingart, a developer in Cleveland Heights who has worked for years on the hotel plan, said he's joined forces with Whitestone Realty Capital LLC of New York to undertake the $50 million project.

 

Their joint venture, Cleveland Euclid Hotel Associates, is pursuing construction financing to buy and rebuild the structure, Mr. Weingart said.

 

“I'd like to be in construction by June, but I really can't say when that will be” because plans hinge on obtaining bank loans for the project, Mr. Weingart said.

 

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http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20130205/FREE/130209892

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“I'd like to be in construction by June, but I really can't say when that will be” because plans hinge on obtaining bank loans for the project, Mr. Weingart said.

 

Er, well this makes more sense.  It's really just a plan still, not a project.  I suspect their publicly optimistic start-time has more to do with getting an extension of the historic preservation credits than realistic expectations, but hopefully I'm wrong.

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I'll be interested to see how they handle the entrance and any vehicular drop off zone.  That stretch of sidewalk in front is really tight as it is, plus the intersection with E. 12th complicates things.  I wonder if they could reduce eastbound travel to one lane and modify the signal to be similar to they way E. 6th currently works, with eastbound getting its own exclusive green.

I'm not sure how Wyndham does it, but they are along that stretch as well and I frequently see valet there. I'm pretty sure they cut out some of the sidewalk for it, but have been down here long enough that I don't pay attention when I walk by.

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I'm not sure how Wyndham does it, but they are along that stretch as well and I frequently see valet there. I'm pretty sure they cut out some of the sidewalk for it, but have been down here long enough that I don't pay attention when I walk by.

 

Check it out on Streetview.

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Great news. I was in their for the first time shortly before CAC closed for a HS reunion and was awestruck by it all. Looking forward to seeing what they keep and what they replace.

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Haha that would be too logical!!! Thanks KJP.  Wyndham removed between 1/4 and 1/2 of the sidewalk for the valet lane.

 

http://goo.gl/maps/QCQSI

 

The Wyndham was able to add the cut-out, but they had a lot more sidewalk to work with.  Even though they aren't far away, the sidewalk gets really tight in front of the CAC to accommodate the additional turn lane at E. 12th.  Look at the streetview there:

 

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.50045,-81.683612&spn=0.002366,0.004823&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=41.500468,-81.684517&panoid=6O2S3mCj5--0-pWH0TVIkg&cbp=12,233.03,,0,12.16

 

If they cut out the same space they have in front of the Wyndham they'd probably end up right in front of the building.  I bet they'd have to do some kind of street realignment.

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They could change the direction of that one way alley, and make that the valet area.

 

Could they put the valet area on Huron?

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They could change the direction of that one way alley, and make that the valet area.

 

Could they put the valet area on Huron?

 

Probably not. There are other buildings between the CAC and Huron. There is an alley next to it, and it is a nice alley as far as alley's go (with glass entrances to the adjoining buildings). But it is probably too threatening-looking to many visitors, especially from smaller towns and suburbs.

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CAC doesn't front on Huron, and I'm sure they want to put valet right next to some sort of entrance.  They could have valet on East 12th place (the alley) or on Barn Ct (the alley behind the building), or they could get rid of the turn lane from Euclid to East 12th St, and reconfigure the road and sidewalk to create a valet turn-off.

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They could change the direction of that one way alley, and make that the valet area.

 

Could they put the valet area on Huron?

 

Probably not. There are other buildings between the CAC and Huron. There is an alley next to it, and it is a nice alley as far as alley's go (with glass entrances to the adjoining buildings). But it is probably too threatening-looking to many visitors, especially from smaller towns and suburbs.

 

Clean it up, repave it, light it, canopy it.

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CAC doesn't front on Huron, and I'm sure they want to put valet right next to some sort of entrance.  They could have valet on East 12th place (the alley) or on Barn Ct (the alley behind the building), or they could get rid of the turn lane from Euclid to East 12th St, and reconfigure the road and sidewalk to create a valet turn-off.

 

Ha ha - beat ya to it! ;)

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i wonder what is going on with this one?

 

it isnt just the uo website meltdown, there has been no news since feb.

 

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Well, there is an exterior construction elevator, or something similar, attached to the front of the building, FWIW.

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With the Schofield Kimpton underway and the Metropolitan Hotel announced and reports that the LeMeridian Hotel is soon to be announced -  Does this make it easier to get financing for this project?  Just wondering if we get the Auto mile hotel results in the E.9/Euclid area  or do you think we are now oversaturated with hotels on e.9/euclid?

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A quick question coming from someone who doesn't know much about construction.

 

Is it structurally/economically possible to cut a substantial amount of windows in the western looking blank wall?  It seems like this would make the building more marketable but I'm not sure if it would be astronomically expensive or structurally impossible.

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I can't speak to the structural aspects or cost effectiveness of cutting new windows into the western facade, but doing so would also require the building owner to buy a light/air easement above the neighboring building.  And they may not come cheap, because it would mean buying out the potential for larger development on that neighboring site.

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I can't speak to the structural aspects or cost effectiveness of cutting new windows into the western facade, but doing so would also require the building owner to buy a light/air easement above the neighboring building.  And they may not come cheap, because it would mean buying out the potential for larger development on that neighboring site.

 

That makes sense - thanks

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If they can complete financing on this project with a hotel as part of the package, that would be impressive. Especially when you consider AC, Kimpton and LeMeridien are already announced. Going to be fun to watch.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2014/01/cleveland_athletic_club_buildi_1.html#incart_river_default

 

Cleveland Athletic Club building sells for $4.5 million, preserving tax credits for redevelopment

January 07, 2014 at 9:45 AM, updated January 07, 2014 at 9:48 AM

Michelle Jarboe McFee, The Plain Dealer

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- One of the last stagnant properties between downtown Cleveland's Public Square and PlayhouseSquare changed hands on the final day of 2013, indicating that a revival of the empty Cleveland Athletic Club building might happen this year

 

 

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Crain's take......

 

Development group buys Cleveland Athletic Club building

By STAN BULLARD

3:07 pm, January 7, 2014

 

The development group planning to construct a Crowne Plaza Hotel and apartments in the former Cleveland Athletic Club building in downtown Cleveland recently took another step — tiny though it may be — toward making the project a go....

 

Ned Weingart, a developer in Cleveland Heights who is managing member of Euclid Hotel, said his group plans to pay the balance of the purchase to CAC Building when it closes on construction financing for the project, perhaps as early as this spring. He declined to say how large a mortgage CAC Building holds. County records do not specify the amount of the mortgage.

 

As part of the transaction, Mr. Weingart said, the seller also must pay more than $1 million in unpaid property taxes on the property, according to county records. That figure has increased since Cuyahoga County instituted a foreclosure proceeding last May 16 to recoup unpaid property taxes, then about $700,000.

 

Mr. Weingart said gaining ownership of the project primarily helps Euclid Hotel with the project because lenders are more willing to proceed if a developer has title to a property.

 

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http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20140107/FREE/140109832

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Has there been any progress on this lately? Walking by annoyed me all winter because the sidewalk was never cleared after snowfall. Nearly fell countless times. I hope some momentum builds soon.

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Can the RNC recommendation finally help close finananing on this project. Cuyahoga County records still

show unpaid property taxes of under 1 million. These 195 additional rooms sure would come in handy for the 2016 convention.

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