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Well, it seems we've earned it through our choice of criminal, anti-democratic leaders...

 

 


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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Nobody seems to have noticed: the only two rich societies in the world with falling life expectancies, incomes, savings, happiness, trust — every single social indicator you can imagine — are America and Britain. It’s not one of history’s most improbable coincidences that America and Britain are collapsing in eerily similar ways, at precisely the same time. It’s a relationship. What connects the dots?

https://eand.co/this-is-how-a-society-dies-35bdc3c0b854

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I'd hit "like" if I could, even though I don't enjoy the content. 


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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Truth

 

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"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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1 hour ago, eastvillagedon said:

Canada's doing so well their unemployment rate is nearly twice ours

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/stats-can-jobs-report-nov-1.5386624

 

1) Someone failed math.  3.5% (U.S. rate) doubled would be 7%.  5.9% (Canadian rate) is not "nearly twice ours."

 

2) Let's go under the hood here a bit.

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/unemployment

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The unemployment rate measures unemployment and is expressed as a percentage of the total labour force. The labour force is the total number of people who are 15 years of age and over who are either employed or unemployed. The unemployment rate is calculated by dividing the number of unemployed people by the number of people in the labour force.

 

Canada does not measure unemployment rate like we do - at least not the most commonly reported unemployment rate, u-3.  To get a more comparative view, one would look at the U.S.'s u-6 unemployment rate.  I'm surprised you didn't know this because it's all conservative pundits would talk about during the recovery from 2009-2017.  

https://www.macrotrends.net/1377/u6-unemployment-rate

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The current U6 unemployment rate as of November 2019 is 6.90.

 

Oops.  You may want to revise your post.

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1 hour ago, eastvillagedon said:

Canada's doing so well their unemployment rate is nearly twice ours

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/stats-can-jobs-report-nov-1.5386624

 

3 minutes ago, DarkandStormy said:

 

1) Someone failed math.  3.5% (U.S. rate) doubled would be 7%.  5.9% (Canadian rate) is not "nearly twice ours."

 

2) Let's go under the hood here a bit.

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/unemployment

 

Canada does not measure unemployment rate like we do - at least not the most commonly reported unemployment rate, u-3.  To get a more comparative view, one would look at the U.S.'s u-6 unemployment rate.  I'm surprised you didn't know this because it's all conservative pundits would talk about during the recovery from 2009-2017.  

https://www.macrotrends.net/1377/u6-unemployment-rate

 

Oops.  You may want to revise your post.

 

And here I was just thinking about how when your country has a proper public healthcare system that covers everyone, as they do in Canada, being unemployed isn’t nearly as devastating as here in the US where you lose your healthcare when you lose your job. But you did the extra digging to point out how the OP was comparing apples to oranges.  (Shocker.)  Thank you. 

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Research? You want reactionaries to do research??

 

Here's where the debate begins... Americans are living shorter lives. You can't have a higher quality of life if you have less of it.

 

Then there's that whole oligarchy-not-democracy thing, huge numbers of Americans in prison most of whom are minorities, huge numbers of Americans getting slaughtered by the guns they claim are needed to protect us, weakening regulations that used to punish not reward companies like in progressive countries, and of course a transportation system that isolates the poor rather being a ladder to success.


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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In a nation spiraling out of control....

 

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"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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Are you f-ing kidding me??

 

 


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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Redirecting from the Trump thread....

 

Once Senate Republicans acquit (and they will), the precedent is set that presidents are untouchable by any law, including the Constitution. And once Trump cheats even worse and wins reelection with foreign help (because no one will stop him), can we still call ourselves a constitutional democracy or are we Republican oligarchy whose inner circle and its point man controls the nation and its people?

 

And for those states or parts of states that want to remain in a democratic nation of laws, preferably with a multiparty system where corporations aren't people, what is their recourse? Do they threaten to hold their own constitutional convention? Do they threaten to secede into their own country? They may have to. Anything less may be an empty gesture.


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That's exactly what will be the USA's epitaph: "We didn't give a sh!t."

 

 


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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https://www.businessinsider.com/sanna-marin-finland-nordic-model-does-american-dream-better-wapo-2020-2

 

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Sanna Marin, the millennial prime minister of Finland, said her country and other Nordic nations were best equipped to provide their citizens a chance to achieve the American dream.

 

She told The Washington Post's Ishaan Tharoor at Davos, Switzerland, in January: "I feel that the American dream can be achieved best in the Nordic countries, where every child no matter their background or the background of their families can become anything."

 

She's not wrong.


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I used to not vote because I didn't like any of the candidates. While our two-party system, exclusionary primaries, sickening campaign finance (aka legalized bribery) laws offer candidates incapable of serving anyone but the oligarchs, I realized before Trump got elected that defensive voting can save some semblance of democracy. Too bad most of America's electorate didn't realize that before 2016....

 

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"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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This is How a Society Dies

UMAIR HAQUE DECEMBER 12, 2019

 

Who else in a rich society denies their neighbours healthcare and retirement? Nobody. Who else denies their own kids education? Nobody. Who else denies themselves childcare and elderly care? Nobody. Who else doesn’t want safety nets, opportunities, mobility, protection, savings, higher incomes? Nobody. Literally nobody on planet earth wants worse lives excepts us. We’re the only people on earth who thwart our own social progress, over and over again — and cheer about it.

 

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"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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The Senate's jury nullification of Trump's impeachment is reminiscent of the ancient Roman senate’s compliance with the autocratic rule of the emperors and its transformation into a body largely reliant on the emperors’ whims.  Trump’s lawyers (and many in his cabinet have done so as well) argued that the president’s personal position is inseparable from that of the nation itself. The old Nixonian view that when the president does it, it cannot be illegal. 

 

A similar view of Roman leaders occurred during the ascendancy of Rome’s first emperor, Augustus, 31 B.C. to A.D. 14 -- the leader is the state. 

 

Of course, the Roman senate's acquiescence at least initially was encouraged by August bringing his army into Rome.  A not-so-veiled threat.  So yes, there are some differences.

 

But in acquitting Trump's obstruction of justice, what incentive is there for the executive to ever testify or provide documents to Congress?  Are we on the same path toward authoritarianism? 

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Two future countries were just heard from....

 

BTW, PA also joined the Northeast states. Too bad Ohio hasn't.

 


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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Pulitzer winner Chris Hedges: These "are the good times — compared to what's coming next"

Author of "America: The Farewell Tour": We're heading for a steep decline; Biden and the Democrats have no answers

https://www.salon.com/2020/04/28/pulitzer-winner-chris-hedges-these-are-the-good-times--compared-to-whats-coming-next/

 


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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For those who don't think that these nutjobs will resort to armed intervention to keep Trump in the White House, should he lose the election, perhaps today will wake you up?

 

 


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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Kind of a flimsy reason for another civil war


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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More American exceptionalism.....

 


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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Re-reading the above. I like this summary...

 

About half a century ago, the philosopher Isaiah Berlin divided freedom into two categories — maybe you already know them. Negative freedom, or freedom from. And positive freedom, or freedom to. The theory then went — and this became the basis of generations of American thought — that only the freedom from was worth developing and cultivating.

 

The freedom “to”, on the other hand, was vilified as something that only communists and socialists would want. Why? Because my “freedom to” — say to be educated, or to be healthy — requires your input, help, cooperation. But American thinking — which became obsessed with individualism — couldn’t admit or permit that, because then maybe you weren’t “taking responsibility for yourself” and all the rest of the jargon.

 

Freedom to without freedom from gave us the Soviet Union. But freedom from without freedom to gave us America, the failed state, the world’s first poor rich country. Gentle Europe, wise New Zealand, humble and kind Canada — which balance the two — have found a kind of miracle in that equilibrium.


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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23 hours ago, KJP said:

How Freedom Became Free-dumb in America

Why the World is Horrified by the American Idiot

https://eand.co/how-freedom-became-free-dumb-in-america-baee33dc6476

 

 

Some more great quotes from that article --

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Americans aren’t just congregating in parks and beaches during a global pandemic. They’re literally the only people in the world who just voted against better healthcare (from Bernie and Liz) in the middle of a pandemic. Think about the scale of such folly for a moment. What kind of people vote for worse healthcare…during a pandemic?

 

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Here I am, the American idiot, carrying my gun to Starbucks, before I go to Walmart, where I’ll choose between a million different flavors of the Everyday Low Price, and then I’ll dream about being Great Again, while I drive my big car down the big, empty highway, listening to some bellowing mullah of capital and individualism and cruelty telling me to hate and rage a little more. Along the way, so what if I create my very own exploitation, abuse, misery, decline into poverty, despair, degradation, dehumanization? Hey! Don’t tell me any different!

Isn’t that what freedom really is?

 

In other words, Americans would rather choose from among "a million different flavors" of bad insurance coverage than have universal coverage at lower cost because the "cost" would be a -- shudder -- tax!

 

The American Idiot is indeed a special breed of #1.

 

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^ so exceptional. Meanwhile....

 

 


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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How can we possibly keep this country together with such diametrically opposing viewpoints? Frankly, I don't even want to be in the same country with so many people who have such disgusting, inane views.

 

 


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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41 minutes ago, KJP said:

How can we possibly keep this country together with such diametrically opposing viewpoints? Frankly, I don't even want to be in the same country with so many people who have such disgusting, inane views.

 

 

 

Honestly nothing can be done as long as social media forms echo-chambers on both extremes of the political spectrum.  

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"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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Also referring  to the decline of the USA: "The good news is, there is a way out. Throughout history, empires fall, societies implode. But the process of rebuilding can only happen if there is a period of profound self-reflection, a real and honest acknowledgement of who you are, and why you are."

 

 


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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LOL, wait 😪

 


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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America is already a nation of political tribes and deepening polarization. Could get worse...

 

 


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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Hey, all that stuff I've been talking about for the past year about how the system is broken and electoralism is ineffective and people will realize that and resort to other means.

 

This is what I meant.

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