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The wrong people are dying.....

 

 


"Nearly every problem that we have in the USA -- unaffordable health care, prison overpopulation, hyper militarization, climate change, racism, gun violence, poverty, poor education, urban sprawl and others -- cannot be positively addressed because bribery and conflicts of interest are legal under campaign finance laws which protect the uber-wealthy and the narrow self-interests who grossly benefit from our afflictions."

 

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More news from the nation that doesn't care about gun deaths...

 

 


"Nearly every problem that we have in the USA -- unaffordable health care, prison overpopulation, hyper militarization, climate change, racism, gun violence, poverty, poor education, urban sprawl and others -- cannot be positively addressed because bribery and conflicts of interest are legal under campaign finance laws which protect the uber-wealthy and the narrow self-interests who grossly benefit from our afflictions."

 

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Only nationalists with their heads up their butts still believe in "American Exceptionalism"....

 

 


"Nearly every problem that we have in the USA -- unaffordable health care, prison overpopulation, hyper militarization, climate change, racism, gun violence, poverty, poor education, urban sprawl and others -- cannot be positively addressed because bribery and conflicts of interest are legal under campaign finance laws which protect the uber-wealthy and the narrow self-interests who grossly benefit from our afflictions."

 

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Guns ARE tyranny!

 

1.15 Million Americans Have Been Killed by Guns Since John Lennon’s Death
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/1-15-million-americans-have-been-killed-by-guns-since-john-lennons-death-43117/


"Nearly every problem that we have in the USA -- unaffordable health care, prison overpopulation, hyper militarization, climate change, racism, gun violence, poverty, poor education, urban sprawl and others -- cannot be positively addressed because bribery and conflicts of interest are legal under campaign finance laws which protect the uber-wealthy and the narrow self-interests who grossly benefit from our afflictions."

 

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"Nearly every problem that we have in the USA -- unaffordable health care, prison overpopulation, hyper militarization, climate change, racism, gun violence, poverty, poor education, urban sprawl and others -- cannot be positively addressed because bribery and conflicts of interest are legal under campaign finance laws which protect the uber-wealthy and the narrow self-interests who grossly benefit from our afflictions."

 

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44 minutes ago, freefourur said:

This is a great thread by a conservative. 

 

I'm sure the irony of criticizing something as "virtue-signaling" while stating in almost every Tweet that he "used to be a Republican" is missed on this guy.

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While I agree that making background checks tougher, prohibiting large magazines, limiting access to some kinds of high-power ammunition and/or weapons, requiring gun safes, requiring gun safety training, requiring licensing or insurance, etc. -- all the things that gun control advocates are pushing for -- would not prevent every shooting.  I do think that those measures could limit irresponsible or impulsive shootings, however, and would reduce the number and severity of deaths from gun violence. That path has been taken in other countries with some success, and without banning all personal gun ownership. 

 

The NRA and other expansive gun-rights advocates have rejected almost all of those options in any form in the US out of fear of losing their right to protect themselves and to shoot guns for target practice and hunting, etc.   

 

While we applaud the gun-carrying church-goers who killed the recent shooter at the White Settlement, Texas church, let's not forget that three people were still killed. One was part of the trained gun-carrying security of the church, and he was killed with his gun drawn. Then the deacon was killed (while serving communion -- probably a bit difficult to do with a gun in hand to protect yourself) before the shooter was killed.  The presence of guns failed to prevent three deaths, which emphasizes that a gun is an offensive rather than a defensive weapon, the only way to prevent another person carrying a gun from killing you is to kill them first; even recognizing that the presence of multiple guns limited the number of deaths to three.

 

Is this an acceptable rate of deaths in exchange for an expansive right to bear arms?  If not, what would you do to further minimize or prevent these deaths? 

 

 

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On 11/14/2019 at 12:42 PM, KJP said:

So what weapons should I be amassing to fight the NRA, Trump, GOPers, etc?

 

Books? Worldwide travel experiences? Meeting with people over coffee rather than at shooting ranges or Trump rallies? Looking for ideas....

 

And

Did they doctor the Pete photo? 🤣 I'm not a fan of him, but that is very unflattering.

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18 hours ago, Cavalier Attitude said:

Did they doctor the Pete photo? 🤣 I'm not a fan of him, but that is very unflattering.

 

It does look cartoonish.

 

On the flip side, even the NRA is getting into the Bernie Erasure Game, if the goal was to caricature the top Democratic primary contenders as of November ...

 

Maybe they were going for technical accuracy in "current Democrats still standing," given Bernie's independent status, but ...

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5 minutes ago, Gramarye said:

 

It does look cartoonish.

 

On the flip side, even the NRA is getting into the Bernie Erasure Game, if the goal was to caricature the top Democratic primary contenders as of November ...

 

Maybe they were going for technical accuracy in "current Democrats still standing," given Bernie's independent status, but ...

Maybe they were playing into the old "Bernie loves guns" trope. That was a thing in 2016.

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Sheesh - I hope these guys save some sex for the rest of us. 

 

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16 minutes ago, DarkandStormy said:

^Look at all these very secure white men lmao

 

They look pretty "secure" to me LOL.

 

I don't expect much of anything unscheduled to happen.  This isn't Charlottesville, or one of the "Occupy" rallies.   The mainstream and near mainstream right is better at wacko control than the left, we have to be since the mainstream media leans left.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, E Rocc said:

 

They look pretty "secure" to me LOL.

 

I don't expect much of anything unscheduled to happen.  This isn't Charlottesville, or one of the "Occupy" rallies.   The mainstream and near mainstream right is better at wacko control than the left, we have to be since the mainstream media leans left.

 

 

 

I'm very confused by this comment. 

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Let them show up looking like this. It only provides more motivation for stronger gun regulations so that nutjobs like this don't have access to weapons like that...

 

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"Nearly every problem that we have in the USA -- unaffordable health care, prison overpopulation, hyper militarization, climate change, racism, gun violence, poverty, poor education, urban sprawl and others -- cannot be positively addressed because bribery and conflicts of interest are legal under campaign finance laws which protect the uber-wealthy and the narrow self-interests who grossly benefit from our afflictions."

 

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"Nearly every problem that we have in the USA -- unaffordable health care, prison overpopulation, hyper militarization, climate change, racism, gun violence, poverty, poor education, urban sprawl and others -- cannot be positively addressed because bribery and conflicts of interest are legal under campaign finance laws which protect the uber-wealthy and the narrow self-interests who grossly benefit from our afflictions."

 

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Despite all sorts of speculation, the Richmond rally was nothing like Charlottesville, it was more like one of the Tea Party rallies.   Stayed on message, non-traditional allies welcomed (and often featured in the PR), and attendees even cleaned up after themselves (I was kind of hoping they would think of that).   Very well done, on a Gilets Jaunes level, it still seemed to make its point.

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Very confused why "judges legislating from the bench" and "presidents ruling via executive order" are bad, but "sheriffs deciding which laws to enforce and which laws to ignore" is totes kewl.

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6 minutes ago, taestell said:

Very confused why "judges legislating from the bench" and "presidents ruling via executive order" are bad, but "sheriffs deciding which laws to enforce and which laws to ignore" is totes kewl.

Those things are only bad when liberals do them.  When conservatives do it. it's great because it owns the libs, which is the only coherent tenet of "conservatism" that is still intact. 

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"Nearly every problem that we have in the USA -- unaffordable health care, prison overpopulation, hyper militarization, climate change, racism, gun violence, poverty, poor education, urban sprawl and others -- cannot be positively addressed because bribery and conflicts of interest are legal under campaign finance laws which protect the uber-wealthy and the narrow self-interests who grossly benefit from our afflictions."

 

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3 hours ago, GCrites80s said:

what do you mean "antifa" didn't show up?

 

Spinal Tap didn't play either

 

Some of them planned to, as supporters of the Second.

 

One would think that those who mistrust the government don't want it to have a monopoly on guns.

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3 hours ago, taestell said:

Very confused why "judges legislating from the bench" and "presidents ruling via executive order" are bad, but "sheriffs deciding which laws to enforce and which laws to ignore" is totes kewl.

 

Are you good with "jury nullification"?

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LOVE IT!! LOL!!!

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"Nearly every problem that we have in the USA -- unaffordable health care, prison overpopulation, hyper militarization, climate change, racism, gun violence, poverty, poor education, urban sprawl and others -- cannot be positively addressed because bribery and conflicts of interest are legal under campaign finance laws which protect the uber-wealthy and the narrow self-interests who grossly benefit from our afflictions."

 

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sh*t, apparently stun guns and tasers require a FOID license in Illinois. With the rise in cops getting the virus, it's time to start taking additional precautions besides a baseball bat by the side of the bed. 

 

Before I look at alternate measures, are there other legal alternatives beyond pepper spray? 

 

 

 

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"Nearly every problem that we have in the USA -- unaffordable health care, prison overpopulation, hyper militarization, climate change, racism, gun violence, poverty, poor education, urban sprawl and others -- cannot be positively addressed because bribery and conflicts of interest are legal under campaign finance laws which protect the uber-wealthy and the narrow self-interests who grossly benefit from our afflictions."

 

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"Nearly every problem that we have in the USA -- unaffordable health care, prison overpopulation, hyper militarization, climate change, racism, gun violence, poverty, poor education, urban sprawl and others -- cannot be positively addressed because bribery and conflicts of interest are legal under campaign finance laws which protect the uber-wealthy and the narrow self-interests who grossly benefit from our afflictions."

 

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https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2020/05/27/chance-gilbert-8-killed-while-kids-played-gun-chief-says/5265302002/

 

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An 8-year-old boy was fatally shot in Mount Airy earlier this month when children played with a gun in what is considered a tragic accident, Cincinnati Police Chief Eliot Isaac said Wednesday.

 

Isaac’s remarks about the death of Chance Gilbert came during Cincinnati City Council’s Law & Public Safety Committee meeting.

 

“This is a true tragedy for that family,” Isaac said. "The investigation is continuing, but what I can update this morning is that we have taken this to the (Hamilton County) prosecutor’s office and prosecution has been declined. What we know at this point is we have children in the home playing with a firearm and young Mr. Gilbert lost his life.

 

The "price of freedom?"


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This won't end well; on second thought, maybe it might....

 

 


"Nearly every problem that we have in the USA -- unaffordable health care, prison overpopulation, hyper militarization, climate change, racism, gun violence, poverty, poor education, urban sprawl and others -- cannot be positively addressed because bribery and conflicts of interest are legal under campaign finance laws which protect the uber-wealthy and the narrow self-interests who grossly benefit from our afflictions."

 

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This seems like the sort of problem that should solve itself sooner rather than later.

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To all of the people who say, "the Second Amendment is the one that protects all the others", here's your chance. Show up and protect the First Amendment.

 

...no?

 

 

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Near as I can tell it, the Second Amendment rights of a few are mostly being used to try to intimidate the many from exercising their First Amendment rights.

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2 hours ago, taestell said:

To all of the people who say, "the Second Amendment is the one that protects all the others", here's your chance. Show up and protect the First Amendment.

 

...no?

 

 

 

I first read that as Matthew Gaetz and wondered what the punchline was going to be. 

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If you needed any more reasons to own weapons for self defense, here's another. This will be especially true if police departments are defunded:

 

St. Louis couple draws firearms on protesters outside their home

https://apnews.com/def4fbb664edeac24746cc7af0c5c555

 

Mark McCloskey, 63, told a TV station that he and wife, Patricia, both personal injury lawyers, were facing an “angry mob” on their private street and feared for their lives Sunday night.

 

No charges were brought against them. Police said they were still investigating but labeled it a case of trespassing and assault by intimidation against the couple by protesters in the racially diverse crowd.

 

...

 

Mark McCloskey told KMOV-TV that a mob rushed toward the home as the family was having dinner and “put us in fear of our lives.”

 

“This is all private property. There are no public sidewalks or public streets. We were told that we would be killed, our home burned and our dog killed. We were all alone facing an angry mob,” McCloskey said.

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Meanwhile, in reality...

 

St. Louis couple point guns at peaceful crowd of protesters calling for mayor to resign

 

The protesters marching through St. Louis on Sunday evening were armed only with posters and chants, all meant to put pressure on Mayor Lyda Krewson to redirect city funds away from law enforcement.

 

“Resign Lyda, take the cops with you,” they shouted on the way to the mayor’s house in the Central West End, banging on drums and carrying signs that said, “Respect us.” The first-term Democrat had publicly released the names and addresses of some fellow activists, and now they wanted to bring their demonstration to her door.

 

But as the peaceful crowd of about 500 walked along a private, gated street, a white couple who emerged from a marble mansion had something else in mind.

 

Around 6 p.m. Sunday, a barefoot man in a pink collared shirt walked out from the five-story house, carrying a semiautomatic rifle as he appeared to threaten the group. A few feet away, a woman pointed a pistol at the crowd, her finger directly on the trigger.

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Yet the barefoot couple standing in front of the house’s perfectly manicured green lawns did not need to do much to defend the mansion. Moments after they pulled out their weapons, a black man in a “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot” shirt directed the crowd to keep moving.

 

“Let’s go, let’s go, let’s go,” he shouted.

 

More below:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/29/st-louis-protest-gun-mayor/


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23 minutes ago, Ram23 said:

If you needed any more reasons to own weapons for self defense, here's another. This will be especially true if police departments are defunded:

 

St. Louis couple draws firearms on protesters outside their home

https://apnews.com/def4fbb664edeac24746cc7af0c5c555

 

Mark McCloskey, 63, told a TV station that he and wife, Patricia, both personal injury lawyers, were facing an “angry mob” on their private street and feared for their lives Sunday night.

 

No charges were brought against them. Police said they were still investigating but labeled it a case of trespassing and assault by intimidation against the couple by protesters in the racially diverse crowd.

 

...

 

Mark McCloskey told KMOV-TV that a mob rushed toward the home as the family was having dinner and “put us in fear of our lives.”

 

“This is all private property. There are no public sidewalks or public streets. We were told that we would be killed, our home burned and our dog killed. We were all alone facing an angry mob,” McCloskey said.

 

Per usual, this is a selective edit which leads to misinformation being posted.  Let's take a closer look:

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However, Circuit Attorney Kimberly Gardner issued a statement later Monday characterizing what happened differently and saying her office was working with police to investigate the confrontation.

 

“I am alarmed at the events that occurred over the weekend, where peaceful protesters were met by guns and a violent assault,” she said. “We must protect the right to peacefully protest, and any attempt to chill it through intimidation or threat of deadly force will not be tolerated.”

 

Their attorney, Albert Watkins, told The Associated Press on Monday that the couple are long-time civil rights advocates and support the message of the Black Lives Matter movement. He said they grabbed their guns when two or three protesters — who were white — violently threatened the couple and their property and that of their neighbors.

 

Their *own attorney* says it was 2-3 protestors.  Is that really an "angry mob?"

 

https://law.justia.com/codes/missouri/2005/t38/5710000030.html

 

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571.030. 1. A person commits the crime of unlawful use of weapons if he or she knowingly:

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Exhibits, in the presence of one or more persons, any weapon readily capable of lethal use in an angry or threatening manner

 

Hmmmm.


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50 minutes ago, Ram23 said:

If you needed any more reasons to own weapons for self defense, here's another. This will be especially true if police departments are defunded:

 

If you needed any more reasons for mandatory training for self defense, this was another.   The idiots were pointing the guns at each other. The woman's finger was on the trigger the entire time.  She could have easily killed her husband rather than a protester.  

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