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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was unable to find a general Gateway District thread.  I feel that with E4th nearly full and spillover happening currently, we are going to hear of a lot more redevelopment projects in the coming years.  Since according to http://www.clevelandgatewaydistrict.com/district-map/ Gateway encompasses Superior-Carnegie and Ontario to E14, this would clear up the issue of not knowing where to put the random developments (such as Potbelly's, Chipotle, etc).  Yesterday, I noticed workers in the vacant space at Prospect and E8 (across from Winking Lizard and behind City Club).  There are no signs or announcements, but this is the first I've ever seen even a door open at this location. Up to this point, there has only been the steel framing. Now there are hardhats.  Possible sign of things to come??

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was unable to find a general Gateway District thread.  I feel that with E4th nearly full and spillover happening currently, we are going to hear of a lot more redevelopment projects in the coming years.  Since according to http://www.clevelandgatewaydistrict.com/district-map/ Gateway encompasses Superior-Carnegie and Ontario to E14, this would clear up the issue of not knowing where to put the random developments (such as Potbelly's, Chipotle, etc).  Yesterday, I noticed workers in the vacant space at Prospect and E8 (across from Winking Lizard and behind City Club).  There are no signs or announcements, but this is the first I've ever seen even a door open at this location. Up to this point, there has only been the steel framing. Now there are hardhats.  Possible sign of things to come??

There probably is something going on probably in anticipation of the second phase of the Casino and and spillover from the things happening on Euclid and also 4th street

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But nothing concrete has been announced, or even rumored yet has it?

 

We still have a Filling In Euclid Avenue thread, but it seemed to have been a dumping ground for everything along Euclid all the way east into University Circle. And any development along Euclid between Public Square and Playhouse Square could be a topic for probably three or more existing threads. So what's the consensus of how to organize this?

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Gateway needs some sort of thread.

Agreed...there's Prospect, E6, E12, Huron, Carnegie, there are really neat possible loft converts on Bolivar...none of that will be covered in anything we currently have if/when something happens.

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But nothing concrete has been announced, or even rumored yet has it?

 

 

 

I recall seeing posted here in another thread someone in the know stating they saw the permits filed in regard to Phase II

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Has anyone seen any new renderings of the proposed Ontario Pointe development? I heard that they might be proposing some new parking garage/retain thing on that little triangle of land opposite Progressive Field. They had an ugly proposal 5-8 years ago that nothing ever came of ...

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I recall seeing posted here in another thread someone in the know stating they saw the permits filed in regard to Phase II

 

I'm talking about developments in the Gateway District. The Phase 2 casino is not in the Gateway District (http://www.clevelandgatewaydistrict.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/GD_Map-Sections_Page-One-e1331589083979.jpg) and even if it was, the phase 2 casino has its own thread and is a known commodity. What developments are planned in Gateway? If there are none, why the new thread now? If we want to discuss our wishes and goals, then perhaps this should be moved to City Discussion until there is literally something concrete to talk about?

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I mean, I guess if it's better to use E4th for all of the spillover stuff and 20 different threads for each building in the Gateway district, then so be it.  Just trying to make things easier. There's a Warehouse District thread and no development along with many others and it is slightly aggravating opening up E4th developments to see people talking about E6th and Euclid. That's all that I'm saying. 

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Cleveland developers win tax credits to bring 111 apartments downtown

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- State tax credits aimed at preservation will help developers bring 111 apartments to downtown Cleveland and revive the Franklin Hotel, the tallest historic building in Kent.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2012/06/cleveland_developers_win_prese.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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^OK I am going to be that pain in the butt poster who mentions that this article has already been posted in two other different threads ("Filling in Euclid Avenue" and "Downtown Residences"), and two days ago to boot.  It is frustrating when the same article is posted in so many different threads since the follow up discussion is all over the place.  Somebody will make a comment and it is hard to recall if it was in this thread or that one and the discussion becomes scattered and people just keep repeating themselves.

 

Also, what does this have to do with Gateway?  Really don't consider Euclid Avenue (especially the south side or west of East Ninth Street where the buildings are located) part of Gateway.

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^OK I am going to be that pain in the butt poster who mentions that this article has already been posted in two other different threads ("Filling in Euclid Avenue" and "Downtown Residences"), and two days ago to boot.  It is frustrating when the same article is posted in so many different threads since the follow up discussion is all over the place.  Somebody will make a comment and it is hard to recall if it was in this thread or that one and the discussion becomes scattered and people just keep repeating themselves.

 

Also, what does this have to do with Gateway?  Really don't consider Euclid Avenue (especially the south side or west of East Ninth Street where the buildings are located) part of Gateway.

 

Agreed.

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Then what neighborhood is it? According to the Gateway District (which is where I live) it is.  I don't think Financial District really exists anymore and 9/12 is really just that.

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At some point the term ceases to have meaning.  It makes no sense to call the core of the city a "Gateway" to anything.  You're not on the way there... you're there.  This is there.

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At some point the term ceases to have meaning.  It makes no sense to call the core of the city a "Gateway" to anything.  You're not on the way there... you're there.  This is there.

 

....which takes this topic further off topic.

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OK, now I'm going to imbed the map since a few folks didn't bother to click on the link I posted earlier from the Gateway District CDC....

 

GD_Map-Sections_Page-One-e1331589083979.jpg

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I think the best way to do it would be to dedicate a thread to each big project.  and put small things like potbelly and chipotle in a "Random Gateway Development" thread.

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OK, now I'm going to imbed the map since a few folks didn't bother to click on the link I posted earlier from the Gateway District CDC....

 

GD_Map-Sections_Page-One-e1331589083979.jpg

Nor the one in the original post.

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OK, now I'm going to imbed the map since a few folks didn't bother to click on the link I posted earlier from the Gateway District CDC....

 

GD_Map-Sections_Page-One-e1331589083979.jpg

 

I for one didn't look at the link, but I think it's overkill to post that article here.    I have spoken!

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I think the best way to do it would be to dedicate a thread to each big project.  and put small things like potbelly and chipotle in a "Random Gateway Development" thread.

 

Dude makes sense.

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I think the best way to do it would be to dedicate a thread to each big project.  and put small things like potbelly and chipotle in a "Random Gateway Development" thread.

 

Dude makes sense.

 

But at the same time those two topics would be in the Cleveland restaurant thread.  There has got to be a better way of deciding how items are posted and its seems that we have a lot of multi themed topics and UO has grown to the point were we need some posting guidelines.

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Filling In Euclid Avenue is almost pointless. We have a University Circle thread, Midtown Thread, Cleveland State Thread, Playhouse Square Thread, East 4th Street thread, and then individual building threads(John Hartness Brown, Truman, Schofield, May Company, etc.) And then we have a thread for retail news, restaurant news, and apartment/condo news. Its too much!!!! :D

 

 

The rule should just be, if the project has a dedicated thread for it, dont post it anywhere else.

 

Example...

 

An article/post about the Schofield Building should be in the Schofield Building thread. The article should not also be posted in the more generic, residences thread, hotel thread, restaurant thread, or retail thread. It could technically fit all of those threads but it only makes sense to post it in the thread dedicated to the project.

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I think the problem is people don't look in all the threads to realize that there is one...on top of that, there are some that haven't been posted in for years on page 5 of the thread list...so it ends up somewhere else.

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I think the problem is people don't look in all the threads to realize that there is one...on top of that, there are some that haven't been posted in for years on page 5 of the thread list...so it ends up somewhere else.

 

Then a moderator should move the post. And thats the extreme. Most of the times its not that far back

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I think the problem is people don't look in all the threads to realize that there is one...on top of that, there are some that haven't been posted in for years on page 5 of the thread list...so it ends up somewhere else.

 

Then a moderator should move the post. And thats the extreme. Most of the times its not that far back

 

Agreed!

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Yeah it's called DNA LEVEL C, (Cleveland spelled backwards).  Pretty cool name.

 

Now THAT'S clever!!  :clap:

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Not sure if a 20-foot x 50-foot banner qualifies as a development, but it's been proposed anyway........

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/bbs/agenda/2012/AGENDA08152012.pdf

 

Agenda

BOARD OF BUILDING STANDARDS AND BUILDING APPEALS

Room 514 – City Hall

WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 15, 2012

 

Docket A-180-12 700 Prospect Avenue WARD: 3

(Joe Cimperman)

700 Prospect Corp., Owner of the Property appeals from an ADJUDICATION ORDER (proposed installation of a 20’ x 50’ mesh wall banner sign attached to east façade of United Church of Christ), dated July 27 2012; appellant states that this banner material will meet all requirements of the ASTM D635 testing; the code allows 40 sq. ft., Appellant is requesting a 20’ x 50’ mesh banner as a wall mural; and that this sign-banner will be over broken windows on their building, no blockage will occur. However, it is a screen mesh that will allow vision from the inside to outside so no blockage will happen.

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East Fourth Yoga is moving into the House of Blues space for Saturday yoga...Let's hope this is to make way for Chipotle!!

 

From Facebook:

"East 4th & Yoga is moving! Come join us tomorrow (9/1) at our new location, 308 Euclid Avenue at the House of Blues Cleveland! Ezra Warren will kick us off with an all levels class at 10am. See you there!"

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There seems to be some action going on in the Fifth Street Arcades. The Euclid space, east of Colossal Cupcakes is a pop-up shop called Collective Upcycle. It is up and ready to go, but the photo I took was super blurry...here's their sign.

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IMG_2849 by jjames0408, on Flickr

 

There were a few places I'd not seen before such as this one:

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IMG_2850 by jjames0408, on Flickr

with many other spaces covered in the black paper.

 

Across from Progressive Field, we are getting a better taste of the design of the sidewalks...

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IMG_2854 by jjames0408, on Flickr

 

Progress on the Tri C administrative parking garage:

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IMG_2851 by jjames0408, on Flickr

 

I just saw new signage for Goodfellers this week:

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IMG_2855 by jjames0408, on Flickr

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^ You noticed our new City Beautiful space I see. We just got done painting it last week.

 

City Beautiful is the organization that will be evolving out of Save Lower Prospect Avenue from the Columbia building fiasco. Dick Pace is lending space to non-profits to bring interest to the arcades until he can find real leases for the spaces, and we were able to secure a space, and will be holding our meetings and doing planning work in there.

 

Our organization worked on the Wolfe Music building after the Columbia (where although we lost the building, we did get some concessions thanks to councilman Johnson) and now we are working on a Slavic village project.

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I always thought the Gateway District was odd as it is vastly undeveloped which you see when you are coming off the freeway and is a surprise because of what is around there....

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