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Thought this thread could be used for projects such as banners, sidewalk and streetscape improvements, building signage, etc. (ex. The RRHOF Walk of Fame plaques)

 

Anyways, here are locations of the new "Wall Advertising Banners"

 

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Happy to see the 668 Bldg getting something on those walls.

 

Intereseting to see that the Hampton Inn is back on board with this. LAst year a Huntington Bank banner had to be removed from the Superior Ave wall on that building after being up only a short time.  Didn't go through the proper channels or something like that??

Same thing went for the Cambridge Bldg in the WHD, it also had a Huntington banner.

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Happy to see the 668 Bldg getting something on those walls.

 

Intereseting to see that the Hampton Inn is back on board with this. LAst year a Huntington Bank banner had to be removed from the Superior Ave wall on that building after being up only a short time.  Didn't go through the proper channels or something like that??

Same thing went for the Cambridge Bldg in the WHD, it also had a Huntington banner.

 

Last year the city ordered a bunch of banners down that we're not approved by the city or something. Hampton inn was one of them.

 

Where is the bluebridge building?

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I think its actually the building at E. 12th and Euclid across from Wyndham.  The old McDonald Investment building will be the new AmTrust Financial Services Building.

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Here's a streetscape suggestion: convert numerous downtown streets -- Prospect, Ontario, West 9th -- from the moon's surface to something that would represent major city thoroughfares in a first-world nation. Or are we too busy building new roads in the exurbs and the countryside to afford taking care of what we already have?


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Here's a streetscape suggestion: convert numerous downtown streets -- Prospect, Ontario, West 9th -- from the moon's surface to something that would represent major city thoroughfares in a first-world nation. Or are we too busy building new roads in the exurbs and the countryside to afford taking care of what we already have?

 

And cut back on beautiful thoroughfares like SR2 in Lake County?  Where the pavement and sound walls are ALREADY crumbling?  I think Cleveland's moonscapes are holding up pretty well all things considered ;)

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Here's a streetscape suggestion: convert numerous downtown streets -- Prospect, Ontario, West 9th -- from the moon's surface to something that would represent major city thoroughfares in a first-world nation. Or are we too busy building new roads in the exurbs and the countryside to afford taking care of what we already have?

 

Amen to that!

Some areas on these streets you mentioned are just plain embarassing. Of course, it's not only these 3 streets.

Just an observation.

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Yeah, it looks like they will be getting rid of the bed and the windswept birch trees that I have always really liked. 

 

Yeah, looks like this will all be gone.

 

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Kindof like they reused the tress from the malls before ripping that up.  They wont. 

 

Puzzeling they keep removing planting areas along E. 9th, which they also did over at the One Cleveland Center building when they re-did the plaza. 

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we need green downtown

 

I would like to see something like this downtown. Larger trees in the middle of the street. I think it could work well in the Warehouse District.

 

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we need green downtown

 

I would like to see something like this downtown. Larger trees in the middle of the street. I think it could work well in the Warehouse District.

 

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I dont.  I think it hurts from a visual stand point and for emergency issues as well.  JMHO

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Yeah, it looks like they will be getting rid of the bed and the windswept birch trees that I have always really liked. 

 

Yeah, looks like this will all be gone.

 

Lizardville_04.jpg

 

WTF? Why?? I just was looking at the interiors of Uptown and now this? Are we trying to make city living as stark and as unattractive as possible??


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Yeah, it looks like they will be getting rid of the bed and the windswept birch trees that I have always really liked. 

 

Yeah, looks like this will all be gone.

 

Lizardville_04.jpg

 

WTF? Why?? I just was looking at the interiors of Uptown and now this? Are we trying to make city living as stark and as unattractive as possible??

 

You know these whippersnappers have no taste!

 

Especially those that ask so many questions!

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^^Yes, adding a patio to a moribund area of downtown, thereby increasing the people presence on the street is stark and unattractive.  :roll:

I liked Uptown. Not everything can, or should, look like a grandma's house :-P

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^^Yes, adding a patio to a moribund area of downtown, thereby increasing the people presence on the street is stark and unattractive.  :roll:

 

Don't roll your eyes at someone's opinion. If you don't like someone else's opinion, don't post here.

 

Are you old enough to remember what this area of downtown was like before they built the Galleria? Sorry, but eliminating wind breaks like trees and vegetation in this area is not a good way to make this area more habitable. You know why they have railings along East 9th in front of the Federal Building? They're not for decoration. They're for holding on to so pedestrians don't get knocked over by the wind. And each winter, the newspapers would publish awesome photos of people trying to stay on their feet while walking through Erieview Plaza. The reason why Erieview Plaza was built upon because it was useless for months out of the year because of the wind. Even if the Galleria was empty, it would still be more useful than the plaza that preceded it. But maybe you can think of reasons getting rid of wind breaks is a good idea at this location?

 

 

I liked Uptown. Not everything can, or should, look like a grandma's house :-P

 

That's fine. Don't expect me to spend my money there then. You have your opinion. I have mine. Next subject.


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^^Yes, adding a patio to a moribund area of downtown, thereby increasing the people presence on the street is stark and unattractive.  :roll:

 

Don't roll your eyes at someone's opinion. If you don't like someone else's opinion, don't post here.

 

Are you old enough to remember what this area of downtown was like before they built the Galleria? Sorry, but eliminating wind breaks like trees and vegetation in this area is not a good way to make this area more habitable. You know why they have railings along East 9th in front of the Federal Building? They're not for decoration. They're for holding on to so pedestrians don't get knocked over by the wind. And each winter, the newspapers would publish awesome photos of people trying to stay on their feet while walking through Erieview Plaza. The reason why Erieview Plaza was built upon because it was useless for months out of the year because of the wind. Even if the Galleria was empty, it would still be more useful than the plaza that preceded it. But maybe you can think of reasons getting rid of wind breaks is a good idea at this location?

 

 

I liked Uptown. Not everything can, or should, look like a grandma's house :-P

 

That's fine. Don't expect me to spend my money there then. You have your opinion. I have mine. Next subject.

 

Remember the failed roller rink in summer and skating rink in winter?  I suspect many here are too young to remember or experience this area.

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Remember the failed roller rink in summer and skating rink in winter?  I suspect many here are too young to remember or experience this area.

 

I looked all over for pictures of that. I especially remember a newspaper photo of pedestrians forming a human chain to pull a pedestrian back to a railing at the Erieview Plaza. And you often didn't need to use physical effort to get moving on your roller skates or ice skates. The wind was sufficiently strong to get you going! The north-northwest winds are still strong in that area, but much less than they were thanks to the wind breaks added over the years. If this wind break is to be removed, then something else needs to be added.


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Remember the failed roller rink in summer and skating rink in winter?  I suspect many here are too young to remember or experience this area.

 

I looked all over for pictures of that. I especially remember a newspaper photo of pedestrians forming a human chain to pull a pedestrian back to a railing at the Erieview Plaza. And you often didn't need to use physical effort to get moving on your roller skates or ice skates. The wind was sufficiently strong to get you going! The north-northwest winds are still strong in that area, but much less than they were thanks to the wind breaks added over the years. If this wind break is to be removed, then something else needs to be added.

 

I thought we had one/some posted here.  I remember pictures of workers building the galleria and the article discussed about how difficult it was to build due to the wind. 

 

I remember the "ice warning" signs and the "skate at your own risk" signs at Erieview Plaza.  That wind tunnel up East Ninth is no joke!

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Remember the failed roller rink in summer and skating rink in winter?  I suspect many here are too young to remember or experience this area.

 

I looked all over for pictures of that. I especially remember a newspaper photo of pedestrians forming a human chain to pull a pedestrian back to a railing at the Erieview Plaza. And you often didn't need to use physical effort to get moving on your roller skates or ice skates. The wind was sufficiently strong to get you going! The north-northwest winds are still strong in that area, but much less than they were thanks to the wind breaks added over the years. If this wind break is to be removed, then something else needs to be added.

 

Are we certain that the entire section of trees is being removed?  From cursory looks at the renderings and the trees there on Google Streetview I don't think the whole lot will be removed.  Although it would be much better if they were to somehow work around the trees and still create their patio.  I think that is one of the things that makes Reddstone's patio in GS so great.

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Personally, I think it would be better to have an active environment than some trees, but we should all understand that its very possible, even standard practice, to do both. These design plans are still in a very early stage, we'll have to keep our fingers crossed. I would imagine the designer would incorporate them somehow, or at least add some new vegetation. Time will tell.

 

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I may be in the minority but I miss the plaza at The Erieview Tower.  The Galleria architecturally blent well with the original structure.

I remember ice skating on the plaza and always marveled at the space.

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