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I doubt anyone will have success trying to stop the viaduct from being replaced. But trying to get the new viaduct to have transit and bike accommodations is possible.

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Even if traffic volumes don't justify the new bridge, I think it's a good idea to rebuilt it just to maintain some redundancy in the transportation network. If I-74 is closed due to some major accident there should be alternate ways for people from the west side to get downtown. It's just depressing to see the double-standard where very small transit expenditure is scrutinized while $300 million road projects stay mostly under the radar.

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... It's just depressing to see the double-standard where very small transit expenditure is scrutinized while $300 million road projects stay mostly under the radar.

 

That's the thing. If a bridge in this day and age costs $300MM then it is what it is. But the streetcar gets enormous amounts of negative press for costing a third of that? You could probably pretty easily make the argument that the streetcar is recouping far more of its installation cost in economic development. A new WHV would be hard pressed to recoup much of that cost. It goes from a barren section of the West Side to a far less important thoroughfare in Central Parkway. It's not 1936 anymore.

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A study should be done to see how traffic would fare if State Ave and Beekman/Cummings St. was widened instead of  a new viaduct.  There are not many buildings along that route, so I don't think it would be a huge loss to demolish them.     

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No, people on the west side decide how they're going to get downtown or to UC well before they start going downhill.  If the viaduct were closed, there would simply be much less traffic on Harrison and Queen City.  Right now State/Beekman have like ZERO cars on them. 

 

A new single-deck viaduct that doesn't interchange with I-75 at all and just has a jug handle connection down to Spring Grove would cost a fraction of what has been proposed and studied. 

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^Cincinnati's already got one at Hopple, and there's one proposed for E 55th at the Opportunity Corridor in Cleveland. Although they're more appropriately connector roads than jughandles in the NJDOT parlance, I suppose.

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We should go full New Jersey and put Jersey barriers down the middle of Glenway Avenue, Colerain Avenue, and other local stroads.

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Navigating the West Side is already impossible, blocking left turns with Jersey barriers will just ensure that anyone who crosses the Mill Creek will never manage to leave.

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Navigating the West Side is already impossible, blocking left turns with Jersey barriers will just ensure that anyone who crosses the Mill Creek will never manage to leave.

 

It really is. It's a part of the closed society.

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Navigating the West Side is already impossible, blocking left turns with Jersey barriers will just ensure that anyone who crosses the Mill Creek will never manage to leave.

 

It really is. It's a part of the closed society.

 

The west side: There's plenty of ways to get there but none of them are great.

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Ohio refuses to do jughandles.

 

I forgot that Cincinnati also has a "real" jughandle at Vine Street and Galbraith Road. As far as I'm aware it's the only one in the state.

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Sen. Brown floats a way to pay for Western Hills Viaduct replacement

 

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Congress should contribute funding to replace the Western Hills Viaduct by including money specifically for such structurally deficient bridges in proposed infrastructure legislation, said Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio.

 

Brown, along with Cincinnati political and business leaders, appeared just beneath the decaying viaduct on Tuesday to tout the senator’s Bridge Investment Act. Brown would divert $75 billion of a $1 trillion infrastructure bill to fix and replace bridges. States and regions would compete for the money.

 

The half-mile viaduct, which is 86 years old and carries 50,000 vehicles a day, is slated to be replaced at a $330 million cost, but most of the money to do so has not been appropriated. The city and county have provided a local match but still need state or federal funding for the project.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/05/29/sen-brown-floats-a-way-to-pay-for-western-hills.html

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If you're going to invest in a country's infrastructure, it makes more sense to invest in the infrastructure that's actually crumbling (WHV) before the infrastructure that is structurally fine but would be "nice" to expand (BSB).

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How much have the city and county raised so far for the Western Hills Viaduct replacement?

 

With a new $5 million grant, the city of Cincinnati and Hamilton County have added to a growing pot of money available for the $335 million Western Hills Viaduct replacement project.

 

The bridge received a $5 million Local Bridge Replacement and Rehabilitation award, a federal program that is administered locally by the County Engineers Association of Ohio. Hamilton County Engineer Ted Hubbard applied for the grant. The grant also requires a $1.25 million local match. To date, the project has at least $89 million in place from various sources.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/07/30/how-much-have-the-city-and-county-raised-so-far.html

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Is there any reason this thing is still going to be double decker? Is traffic really that bad on the viaduct that they can't just integrate the I-75 interchange all on one level?

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The issue could be that right-of-way isn't there for a slightly wider bridge, but I don't know that for sure. Perhaps they only have so many feet to build the bridge, and without a second deck, they wouldn't have the capacity. Engineers often want to overbuild roadways, though.

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Is the Spring Grove Avenue connection being maintained?  It could be that there's not enough room to make a wide single deck and also flare it out and ramp down to Spring Grove since it has to also stay pretty high to clear I-75 and intersect Central Parkway. 

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That rendering is NOT a design proposal. The article states that the hired design firm will look at both a double deck and a dual offset design. 

 

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The company will look at two types of structures – a double deck structure as the bridge is currently constructed or dual offset with the bridge having both lanes of traffic at the same level. Public involvement meetings will be held to get feedback. 

 

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$41 million to be split between Greater Cincinnati transportation projects

 

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More than $41 million in federal funding will be split between 24 different transportation projects in Greater Cincinnati.

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Among projects that will receive the funding are the replacement plan for the Western Hills Viaduct, the addition of hybrid-electric buses to Northern Kentucky’s TANK system, extensions of Riverfront Commons, replacement of the King Avenue Bridge over the Little Miami River and a new roundabout near Liberty Center.

 

Twelve bike and pedestrian projects are expected to receive a portion of the funding, including sidewalk rehabilitation and an expansion of Cincinnati Red Bike.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/10/16/41-million-to-be-split-between-greater-cincinnati.html

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On 10/12/2018 at 3:44 PM, jmecklenborg said:

If the new clear span enables the railroad to gain more capacity, the railroad should pay into the rebuild. 

Good luck with that....

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