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What about the Oracle of Brooks Brothers?

Yes they have been sooooooo dependable  :wink:

 

Hold on to your pants you two. I said in my original post 60 days, it hasn't been anywhere close that yet.

 

If it happens, great - If it falls through, so be it. I am willing to bet that whether Gilbert ends up buying the mall or not, there will still plenty of changes on the horizon.

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No One finds it weird/suspicious that they finally took that awning down from the store across from the Cookie Store after having it up all these years?

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Not really.  It was not attractive and detracting from what was there.  I'm sure they did it to clean up the look on the outside so a prospective tenant doesn't have to see it and have more of a reason to decline.

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Not really.  It was not attractive and detracting from what was there.  I'm sure they did it to clean up the look on the outside so a prospective tenant doesn't have to see it and have more of a reason to decline.

Could be I was hoping a tenant already signed on an didn't want that up there

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So far we've gotten no concrete information of one decent new shop coming to TC, even though the Casino has been open several months.  The music t-shirt shop is okay but it doesn't count because it was already a kiosk and it's just "so-so" anyway, as far as the image of the mall is concerned.

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I see now a store named "Glitter" is coming downstairs but I'm quite positive a store with just that title had been in the mall fairly recently.

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I'll put this in here until Mods open up General Tower City again:

 

"Bizdom, a nonprofit program created by Cleveland Cavaliers majority owner Dan Gilbert to mentor and help finance aspiring entrepreneurs in the urban cores of Detroit and Cleveland, has established its Cleveland headquarters at 250 W. Huron Road downtown. Bizdom will occupy 7,000 square feet inside the five-story office building that is directly below The Ritz-Carlton Hotel."

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20120806/FREE/120809901

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Sooo there really has been no new TC news in 2 months? I find that to be amazing

 

Why, before the Horseshoe opened there hadn't been any news about Tower City since it was announced the new casino would be attached to Tower city? Other than stores leaving of course.

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Why do people only remember the stores that left and not those that arrived? On that score, more stores would have left Tower City than there are leasable spaces at Tower City!


"Fascism begins the moment a ruling class, fearing the people may use their political democracy to gain economic democracy, begins to destroy political democracy in order to retain its power of exploitation and special privilege." -- Tommy Douglas, Scottish-born Canadian Baptist minister and the seventh Premier of Saskatchewan

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This really doesn't have anything much to do with development but I don't know where else to ask this question. So I was just wondering what happened to all those nice hanging things with the animals that use to move, hot air balloon etc, that they use to hang up from the ceiling at tower city a few years back? I haven't seen them in a couple years, with out those it doesn't feel as much Christmas-ey as it use to and I don't feel its as worth going to tower city around Christmas now that they don't hang those up anymore. That's just me though. Thanks!

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This really doesn't have anything much to do with development but I don't know where else to ask this question. So I was just wondering what happened to all those nice hanging things with the animals that use to move, hot air balloon etc, that they use to hang up from the ceiling at tower city a few years back? I haven't seen them in a couple years, with out those it doesn't feel as much Christmas-ey as it use to and I don't feel its as worth going to tower city around Christmas now that they don't hang those up anymore. That's just me though. Thanks!

Really, they aren't up this year?  They have been hanging those every year since tower city opened. 

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Those "flying machines" were not up at least by last year. I figured they were expensive to run and probably, after being up ever since 1990, they were no longer in good working condition or were getting shabby.

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An individual around last summer was convinced those two "schlock" clothing stores - Dario and Manhattan - would be closing soon.  I asked why, as I hadn't seen any definite signs.  Anyway, they're still going and I don't see any reason they will no continue on.  They really are not what I was hoping for in TC and I doubt if they are attracting the Casino people much. And the latest one isn't much of help to the TC image, either.  Nor the leather shop reincarnated.  Wonder what happened to the idea there would be new outlets stores of the Aurora Premium Outlets type.  Nary a single one, so far.

 

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It's early in the Phase 1 Casino's life, so retailers may be waiting to see up to a years worth of traffic and demographic data before committing to TC again.  I think as long as Phase 2 keeps moving forward that offers the best chance for a TC mall redo...what better way...Vegas style really...to connect two casinos than with an upscale mall.  Hopefully this is a reality by 2020.

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Not sure if there is a better thread for this:

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Frustrated with the lack of repairs to the Stanley Block building, the city of Cleveland decided this week to raze the historic downtown structure -- at a cost of $400,000.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2012/12/stanley_block_building_in_down.html#incart_river_default

 

So much is happening in this article I'm not even sure where to start.

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Looks like most of the discussion is occurring in the Cleveland Demolition thread:

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,7006.msg655628.html#msg655628

 


"Fascism begins the moment a ruling class, fearing the people may use their political democracy to gain economic democracy, begins to destroy political democracy in order to retain its power of exploitation and special privilege." -- Tommy Douglas, Scottish-born Canadian Baptist minister and the seventh Premier of Saskatchewan

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Dont know wher else to put this so Ill put these here.

Landmark Towers has had ongoing facade repair and cleaning for a while now. this was really necessary, i think in a lot of people's opinions.

The W. Prospect-facing side seems pretty much done, and 1 of the 2 "towers" facing Ontario is cleaned up. The other provides a comparison

wondering if the brass will  be polished?

 

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Wow this is a surprise. I hope they make it around to the big monstrous wall on the W. Huron side.

And considering Sherwin Williams is a paint company,  why can't they paint the exposed brick  (where they hang the banner) the shade of the rest of the building? Would look so much better till something is built there.

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From the Sept. 6. agenda. Just wondering if this has anything to do with Casino Phase II or just regular maintenance. The last line is interesting.

 

-Ordinance No. 1100-13(Ward 3/Councilmember Cimperman): Giving consent of the City of Cleveland to the Director of Transporation of the State of Ohio for the repair of the Tower City Bridge Complex; authorizing the Director of Capital Projects to enter into any relative agreements; to apply for and accept any gifts or grants for this purpose from any public or private entities; authorizing one or more contracts with consultants and agreements with public and private entities; and authorizing the Commissioner of Purchases and Supplies to acquire, accept, and record for right-of-way purposes any real property and easements necessary to make the improvement.

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The entire Tower City complex (buildings, streets, etc) is built on bridges and required tons of federal funding in the 1980s to rehab them before the whole Tower City rehab and conversion project was done in 1990.


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This is no development but a new update on moving a house of hoops into Tower City. I was talking to the Manager at Footlocker and he was telling me on surprise day that the Footlocker president along with Nike Lawyers came to visit the Footlocker store downtown. They were scoping the store because they want to move a house of hoops down there very badly because they know it can make money (Footlocker downtown is a million dollar store). They met with the Mall Manager but hit a snag due to the mall manager not knowing what direction they want tower city to go in (A regular mall, an outlet mall, a clearance mall). He was telling me the Nike lawyers were trying to convince the manager that if you allow a store with that much popularity in your mall then more stores will be willing to come in your mall (ripple effect). That is why we haven't seen the House of Hoops or any major store move in the mall, not because the story wasn't true but because the mall manager doesn't know which direction it wants the mall to go in.

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is that decision up to the mall manager or the actual owners?  to me that decision would likely come from someone higher up.  Regardless, they need to make a decision and own it already.

 

Isn't the mall manager and owner the same thing in this case? Both FCE?

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is that decision up to the mall manager or the actual owners?  to me that decision would likely come from someone higher up.  Regardless, they need to make a decision and own it already.

 

Isn't the mall manager and owner the same thing in this case? Both FCE?

No the mall manager is different her name always slips my mind but it is a common belief around tower city with store managers of  stores that have been there since virtually the beginning of TC at least that the mall went in the wrong direction when she came on board.

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is that decision up to the mall manager or the actual owners?  to me that decision would likely come from someone higher up.  Regardless, they need to make a decision and own it already.

The mall manager is the person who would sit and do the negotiating with new stores that is why the Nike lawyers were talking to her.

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The entire Tower City complex (buildings, streets, etc) is built on bridges and required tons of federal funding in the 1980s to rehab them before the whole Tower City rehab and conversion project was done in 1990.

 

Yes, absolutely... I don't think people realize, as I know you do, what an amazing engineering feat that complex is: not only constructing it on a relatively small parcel of land (IIRC on rather unstable soil) sloping down toward the river, but accessed by trains to boot... Actually TC should have been rebuilt probably a decade before it actually was.  I remember as a young boy, my Dad bringing home exciting proposals and artist’s renderings of a massive mall complex roughly looking like the TC that materialized back in the mid-70s!  But FCE wasn't going to move on TC without public financing to rehab the bridges, and the lack of agreement on funding held TC up for years... For all TC's faults as a shopping mall, and it clearly has them, it is still a thing of beauty architecturally, especially the way the old Union Station motif is woven into the design.

 

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