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5 hours ago, jmecklenborg said:

I'm not really convinced that New England hasn't been more lucky than simply above average for the past 15 years. 

 

So many of the New England come-from-behind playoff and Super Bowl games could have been lost as easily as they were won

 

But...they've won most of them.  They've been to 8 straight AFC Championship games.  You're playing "ifs and buts" to try to discredit the greatest run in NFL history.  Your take is simply bad.


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The margin between winning and losing so many of these games has been a single call, a single play.  They lost that first one to the Giants because of that ridiculous helmet catch. 

 

There are so many times when a team is eliminated from a playoff run for the most ridiculous and unlikely event.  The Bengals lost to The Steelers 3 years ago in the last minute because the Pittsburgh coach walked on the field illegally, taunted Burfict and Jones, and drew penalties from the Bengals' defense. 

 

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There are over 100 plays, typically, in a football game.  Those plays get magnified because they're often toward the end of the game, but the teams have dozens upon dozen of plays in the first 57 minutes that make a difference as well.


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This guy repeats all of my points (my above remarks were made before I read or watched anything to this effect).  And of course the other people gang up on him because the average knucklehead doesn't want to accept that chance often plays a decisive role in professional sports.  Today at work I made these points to a bunch of former high school football stars (to hear them tell it) and they basically told me to shut up I don't know about football, etc.  These same idiots play the Pik 3 and 4 every day and lack a fundamental understanding of probability and statistics. 

 

 

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Racing people are way more grounded than ball and stick sport people when it comes to that kind of stuff. It's why it's often difficult for racing people to watch ball and stick action, especially when the rhetoric surrounding it seems to revolve around "since this guy's numbers are higher than the same guy's on the other team they are going to win." A megamix of wrong sports predictions are beyond hilarious to the point of being sad to race car people.

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I read a 1950s book on stock investing that talked about how every year on Wall St. some golden boy appears who makes 2-3 miraculous stock picks by age 30, becomes a much sought-after investment advisor, and then promptly loses a lot of money for a lot of people.  20 years later he has yet to make another miraculous pick. 

 

If you want to go to the playoffs a bunch of times, and thereby have a chance of getting to the superbowl, you need to stay healthy.  With the exception of the Matt Cassell year, Brady has done that.  I don't think he was even touched last night.  It only takes one CHANCE(?) event to end a super bowl run and almost end a career. 

 

 

 

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So you're saying Tom Brady and New England have been "lucky" by building around a solid offensive line?  Instead of luck, it sounds more like a franchise that knows how to properly construct a roster by having a good line protect your most valuable asset.

 

 

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Now this is game....

 

 

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"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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the game basically sucked.  Very little offense.  Goff was terrible.  Tony Romo was pointing out his missed reads constantly.  Hardly any action from Todd Gurley.  I wouldn't call it a dominant defensive performance either.  I just don't think we had the two best teams in the Super Bowl this year.  Chiefs vs Saints could've been amazing

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^ It was a boring game and I am tired of the Patriots and Brady.  Although as someone over 40, I do like seeing Brady still dominate.  I can pretend 40 is not that old. 

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Brady/Bellicheck have taken the game to a new level but they are a system.  Make the read/adjust the play/hit the open man.  Brady doesn't make exciting plays the way Patrick Mahomes or a dozen other QB's do.  That's why he always has these "system" type receivers like Edelman or Wes Welker who just find soft spot in the zone & settle down.  I don't think he's had a truly exciting WR since Randy Moss.

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13 hours ago, mrnyc said:

super bore so far. haha well, ok its actually a tight game for a change.

 

Last year it was 41-33 with some lead changes and came down to the final play.

The year before it was an OT win after the Patriots came back from 28-3.

The year before was...meh, Manning riding a dominant defensive performance into the sunset.

The year before that was the interception at the goal line after the Seahawks decided not to run Marshawn Lynch for...reasons.  Also featured a Pats comeback down 24-14 in the 4th quarter.

 

So 4 of the last 5 Super Bowls have "tight games."  Even 7 of the last 9 have been tight games (within 10 points at final score).


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15 minutes ago, DarkandStormy said:

 

Last year it was 41-33 with some lead changes and came down to the final play.

The year before it was an OT win after the Patriots came back from 28-3.

The year before was...meh, Manning riding a dominant defensive performance into the sunset.

The year before that was the interception at the goal line after the Seahawks decided not to run Marshawn Lynch for...reasons.  Also featured a Pats comeback down 24-14 in the 4th quarter.

 

So 4 of the last 5 Super Bowls have "tight games."  Even 7 of the last 9 have been tight games (within 10 points at final score).

 

 

haha ok, but you had to look that up. that's how much anyone pays attention. i even forgot who played played last year until they mentioned it. at least the dishes are washed and the house is clean.

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14 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

 

 

haha ok, but you had to look that up. that's how much anyone pays attention. i even forgot who played played last year until they mentioned it. at least the dishes are washed and the house is clean.

 

Well, basically every Super Bowl New England plays in is a nail biter, down to the final few minutes.  And I know they've played in a bunch recently.


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^ ahh i see.

 

hmm, now i wonder what does that mean?

 

either we can all keep hope alive that they can be beat...or the fix is in?

 

ha.

 

but seriously, i am not happy with sports book gambling being allowed in all states. i mean the ruling is fair and all, but that gambler influence will ruin sports eventually, if it hasn't already. that's another issue, but it comes to mind with the pats dominance. although rationalizations and excuses aside, really they obviously are the best team and organization, if not the most exciting. pains me to say that.

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I had so much fun in New Orleans yesterday....makes today's hangover worth it.

 

Watched Superbowl 44 about 8 times yesterday at French Quarter bars.  No one was playing the actual superbowl.

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Gee, I'm so surprised....  NOT

 

 


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^ Amy Siskind is a good example of what's wrong with social media. At first glance at her post, one would think Kraft was actively involved in some sort of human trafficking operation, whereas in reality he just allegedly got caught getting a happy ending at a massage parlor.

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14 minutes ago, Ram23 said:

^ Amy Siskind is a good example of what's wrong with social media. At first glance at her post, one would think Kraft was actively involved in some sort of human trafficking operation, whereas in reality he just allegedly got caught getting a happy ending at a massage parlor.

But getting a "happy ending" supports human trafficking.  That's how it works. 

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14 minutes ago, freefourur said:

But getting a "happy ending" supports human trafficking.  That's how it works. 

 

And buying drugs supports the drug trade. In both of these examples, however, the average person scoring on the street isn't the real problem. 

 

Anyways, getting back to my point - that Tweet made it seem like Kraft was some sort of kingpin, which would have been a wild story. I had to go read the article to see that he was charged with a misdemeanor for solicitation. Yawn. At least he didn't pay with a personal check.

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31 minutes ago, freefourur said:

There are reports that Kraft is not the biggest name involved.  This should be interesting.

Should we play the speculation game for fun?

My first initial thought was Trump, but then I cant see that given the secret service protection he has had the last 3 years, would not be able to do that. So I am going with Brady.

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On 2/22/2019 at 2:12 PM, Ram23 said:

 

And buying drugs supports the drug trade. In both of these examples, however, the average person scoring on the street isn't the real problem. 

 

Anyways, getting back to my point - that Tweet made it seem like Kraft was some sort of kingpin, which would have been a wild story. I had to go read the article to see that he was charged with a misdemeanor for solicitation. Yawn. At least he didn't pay with a personal check.

 

actually johns and drug users are also the real problem. thats why those trades exist. the whole cycle is the real problem. come on you know this. defending kraft, a john who supports human trafficing, is more of a personal problem though.

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NFL to celebrate Dayton’s milestone role in game’s history

 

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Did you know the first National Football League game was played right here in Dayton? Indeed, on Oct. 3, 1920 the Dayton Triangles defeated the Columbus Panhandles 14-0 at Triangle Park in Dayton. The game featured the first touchdown ever scored, as well as the first extra point.

 

As it commemorates its 100th anniversary, the NFL is holding events and investing dollars in the Miami Valley, as well as eight other “Original Towns” that previously had pro teams.

 

The “Original Towns” outside of the 32 current NFL markets will host live telecasts in their hometowns to announce picks on Day 3 of the 2019 NFL Draft.

 

In addition to Dayton, the towns include Akron, Canton, and Columbus, Ohio; Hammond, Indiana; Muncie, Indiana; Rochester, New York; and Rock Island, Illinois.

The hometown celebrations in these markets will showcase the town’s history alongside fans, NFL legends, celebrities and elected officials. 

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/news/2019/03/26/nfl-to-celebrate-dayton-s-milestone-role-in-game-s.html

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Source:  Cleveland has been awarded the 2021 NFL Draft

 

As my #SaveTheCrew comrades used to say "Big if true!".  The NFL Draft is a huge event that just keeps getting bigger - as was seen with the multi-day outdoor event that was held in Nashville this year.

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^ i read 600k visitors in nashville for the nfl draft, so that is a very big deal to land it.

 

 

 

On 3/26/2019 at 1:42 PM, ColDayMan said:

NFL to celebrate Dayton’s milestone role in game’s history

 

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Did you know the first National Football League game was played right here in Dayton? Indeed, on Oct. 3, 1920 the Dayton Triangles defeated the Columbus Panhandles 14-0 at Triangle Park in Dayton. The game featured the first touchdown ever scored, as well as the first extra point.

 

As it commemorates its 100th anniversary, the NFL is holding events and investing dollars in the Miami Valley, as well as eight other “Original Towns” that previously had pro teams.

 

The “Original Towns” outside of the 32 current NFL markets will host live telecasts in their hometowns to announce picks on Day 3 of the 2019 NFL Draft.

 

In addition to Dayton, the towns include Akron, Canton, and Columbus, Ohio; Hammond, Indiana; Muncie, Indiana; Rochester, New York; and Rock Island, Illinois.

The hometown celebrations in these markets will showcase the town’s history alongside fans, NFL legends, celebrities and elected officials. 

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/news/2019/03/26/nfl-to-celebrate-dayton-s-milestone-role-in-game-s.html

 

 

 

more interesting trivia -- the dayton triangles moved to brooklyn in 1930 and moving further on down the line they are known today as ... the indianapolis colts:

 

http://www.captainsblog.info/2010/12/27/snows-of-december-evoke-memories-of-the-new-york-football-yankees/4421/

 

 

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