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The landslide on Columbia Parkway near Kemper from a week or so ago was massive.  The pile of dirt covered all three inbound lanes.  Now that they've got a bulldozer working on scraping down what's left, the dirt pile is even bigger. 

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6 minutes ago, jjakucyk said:

It's not replacing the parking lot, which will just become the bottom level of the hotel's garage.  

 

Still surprising regardless. Never thought anything would ever be on this site.

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It's filling in this bowl to the south of the Kroger.  https://goo.gl/maps/MWQEbLGXePqukLrbA  You can see there's probably room for two levels of parking before you get up to Taft/Eden, but I don't think that's enough so I believe that while the lobby is supposed to be at the Taft level, there's still going to be some garage above it too.  At least that's what I saw several months ago.  Seriously, parking just ruins everything.  

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Can someone draw a rough sketch of how this will look and how much of the surface lot this will eat up with the hotel, and the structured garage?

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It will be a Tru by Hilton. About six stories above two levels of parking. This originally was going to go at the old Burgundy site but the owners have gone there own path in getting the hotel built.

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22 hours ago, jjakucyk said:

It's filling in this bowl to the south of the Kroger.  https://goo.gl/maps/MWQEbLGXePqukLrbA  You can see there's probably room for two levels of parking before you get up to Taft/Eden, but I don't think that's enough so I believe that while the lobby is supposed to be at the Taft level, there's still going to be some garage above it too.  At least that's what I saw several months ago.  Seriously, parking just ruins everything.  

 

So how will parking now work for the Clifton Kroger? Will the hotel residents and grocery customers be able to use the same hotel garage?

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1 minute ago, Chas Wiederhold said:

Depending on how much parking they are planning, this will, at most, take up a 1/4-1/3 of the existing surface parking lot.

 

If that.  This side lot is just one aisle wide, and a good chunk of it is taken up by the pharmacy drive-thru, so there's only 32 spots.  I don't think this hotel project goes farther west than the west facade of Kroger, but I'm not positive about that.

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I just took the Fairfield Inn and Suites from U Square and moved it to part of the site it fits pretty snuggly, without impacting much of the flow of the existing site, with an assumption that Rx drive through would remain on the lower level of a structured service level of the building.

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11 minutes ago, Chas Wiederhold said:

I just took the Fairfield Inn and Suites from U Square and moved it to part of the site it fits pretty snuggly, without impacting much of the flow of the existing site, with an assumption that Rx drive through would remain on the lower level of a structured service level of the building.

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Would that be just the hotel foot print without any parking structure? 

 

 

If so, can you show how much of the surface lot would remain would a new parking garage structure on that site.

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The article doesn't say anything about a parking structure or how big this hotel is, for that matter. I just chose the footprint based off a nearby hotel that looks like images for the Tru Hotel by Hilton that was built in Cleveland, where they do not have structured parking. 

 

My guess is: no structured parking. At most, a service level to bring the project to grade on Taft.

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The parking structure would be four stories tall as viewed from the Kroger parking lot, with the bottom level being the parking lot that's there now.  From Taft it would be one story below and three stories above, with the hotel lobby taking up most of level 2. 

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Planning Commission packet has some details but does not say how/where the hotel parking will be: https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/planning/about-city-planning/city-planning-commission/jul-19-2019-packet/

 

The new air lot would be constructed at 856 ft (approximately 10 ft above the surface lot) and "would allow the area below to continue to be owned by and used as surface parking for Kroger. This would then allow the hotel to be on a separate parcel without eliminating surface parking at grade for Kroger." 

 

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1 minute ago, jjakucyk said:

The parking structure would be four stories tall as viewed from the Kroger parking lot, with the bottom level being the parking lot that's there now.  From Taft it would be one story below and three stories above, with the hotel lobby taking up most of level 2. 

 

How many guests rooms is the hotel? I'm curious how many parking spots this hotel will need for hotel guests and hotel employees....will this 4 story garage structure be for just hotel patrons or Kroger customers as well?

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14 minutes ago, jwulsin said:

Planning Commission packet has some details but does not say how/where the hotel parking will be: https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/planning/about-city-planning/city-planning-commission/jul-19-2019-packet/

 

The new air lot would be constructed at 856 ft (approximately 10 ft above the surface lot) and "would allow the area below to continue to be owned by and used as surface parking for Kroger. This would then allow the hotel to be on a separate parcel without eliminating surface parking at grade for Kroger." 

 

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I'm confused where they could build the hotel and garage without affecting the Kroger surface lot?

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10 minutes ago, troeros said:

 

I'm confused where they could build the hotel and garage without affecting the Kroger surface lot?

 

The garage's/hotel's support columns would be in the parking lot, so they might lose a few spots, but if the hotel garage's entrance is on Euclid or Taft then there wouldn't be any ramps to that lower level.  It would basically be a parking lot under a garage, which is only slightly different from being the lowest level of the garage itself. 

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How developer, architect plan to fit a hotel next to Corryville Kroger

 

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A local hotel developer and a Pendleton-based architecture firm are working on a unique solution to fit a new hotel next to the Kroger store in Corryville.

 

The planned Tru by Hilton hotel at William Howard Taft Road and Euclid Avenue would be on grade with the street, but have Kroger's parking spaces underneath.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/07/18/how-developer-architect-plan-to-fit-a-hotel-next.html

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Panel approves zoning for massive new Uptown development

 

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The Cincinnati Planning Commission approved the needed zoning changes for one of the largest new developments in the region on Friday, a $300 million, 12-acre apartment-hotel-retail project at the site where the former Deaconess Hospital once stood.

 

Commissioners rezoned the property, which sits between Clifton Avenue, Herman Street, University Court and the Stratford Heights student apartments, to a planned development. The property sits in the Clifton Heights-University Heights-Fairview (CUF) neighborhood.

 

The developer, Trinitas Ventures, already has completed construction on the Deacon, a student housing project with 351 housing units just north of the hospital. It will open in time for the coming University of Cincinnati school year. It is 85 percent leased, with only 40 percent of the residents bringing their cars, according to Trinitas officials.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/07/19/panel-approves-zoning-for-massive-new-uptown.html

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1 hour ago, ColDayMan said:

Panel approves zoning for massive new Uptown development

 

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The Cincinnati Planning Commission approved the needed zoning changes for one of the largest new developments in the region on Friday, a $300 million, 12-acre apartment-hotel-retail project at the site where the former Deaconess Hospital once stood.

 

Commissioners rezoned the property, which sits between Clifton Avenue, Herman Street, University Court and the Stratford Heights student apartments, to a planned development. The property sits in the Clifton Heights-University Heights-Fairview (CUF) neighborhood.

 

The developer, Trinitas Ventures, already has completed construction on the Deacon, a student housing project with 351 housing units just north of the hospital. It will open in time for the coming University of Cincinnati school year. It is 85 percent leased, with only 40 percent of the residents bringing their cars, according to Trinitas officials.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/07/19/panel-approves-zoning-for-massive-new-uptown.html

The views from the tallest structure which states to not be taller than 275 ft (hopefully they take advantage of every inch they can get) will be a seller in of itself. You will easily be able to see this building coming down the cut in the hill as well as coming down 75 around Paddock. Was not sure which other building they were talking about at 160 ft.

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On 7/18/2019 at 4:59 PM, ColDayMan said:

How developer, architect plan to fit a hotel next to Corryville Kroger

 

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A local hotel developer and a Pendleton-based architecture firm are working on a unique solution to fit a new hotel next to the Kroger store in Corryville.

 

The planned Tru by Hilton hotel at William Howard Taft Road and Euclid Avenue would be on grade with the street, but have Kroger's parking spaces underneath.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/07/18/how-developer-architect-plan-to-fit-a-hotel-next.html

 

That rendering looks better than I was expecting. Looks like it will be a full 6 stories above Taft. That's one corner that I never expected to get developed. That little triangle actually has a bit of charm to it when coming south from Euclid, but most people just zoom through on Taft and don't notice it.

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Reddit was all in a panic because they were convinced the hotel would mean all of the kroger parking lot would be covered, so hopefully this will ease their worries 

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16 hours ago, seaswan said:

Reddit was all in a panic because they were convinced the hotel would mean all of the kroger parking lot would be covered, so hopefully this will ease their worries 


I saw that thread and it was ridiculous. But all the people complaining about parking have since been downvoted to oblivion. For one, that skinny portion of the lot is rarely even used (based on my observations going to this Kroger about 2x a month). Plus, even if it were used and necessary, it's not even going away! They may lose a few spots to columns, but that's it. Small price to pay for a nice, urban hotel that fulfills the huge need for more lodging in the UC area. 

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It's remarkable how busy this Kroger is, especially when contrasted with the previous Kroger which always felt like a ghost-town. 

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^really? I always thought the old Kroger was really busy when I was going there. I'm sure closing the Walnut Hills Kroger had something to do with the added activity here, but the old Corryville Kroger was not dead

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The old corryville Kroger wasn't necessarily dead, but it was commonly referred to as kro-ghetto... And walking around that Kroger at night was always ill-advised by students. 

 

It was just a really sketchy and uninviting Kroger with weird alley-halls and poor lighting at night that makes you feel like you could get jumped and mugged at any moment.

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55 minutes ago, jwulsin said:

It's remarkable how busy this Kroger is, especially when contrasted with the previous Kroger which always felt like a ghost-town. 

 

These newer, larger Kroger stores are always crazy busy, as opposed to the older, smaller stores which were busy at peak times but fairly empty at other times. My work schedule is usually fairly flexible so I often try to run to the store at random times during the week, like 1 pm on a Wednesday or something to avoid the crowds ... and yet the Newport Kroger is always busy at those times. But go to the older, smaller Bellevue Kroger at the same time of day and you can easily get in, shop, and leave an encounter maybe only a dozen other people shopping in the entire store. It's way more pleasant and I'm glad that Kroger actually kept that store around instead of closing it and telling Bellevue residents, "tough luck, drive to Newport."

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I hate mega-Krogers. When I worked in NKY I pretty much exclusively shopped at the Fort Mitchell Kroger, which had an intuitive layout and was a manageable size. I went in the Oakley Kroger exactly one time and wanted to scream. Who buys jewelry at a grocery store? I've still not been in the CUF Kroger.


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The new Corryville Kroger is bigger than the old one, but it still is not a mega-Kroger, so it's not a direct comparison to the Oakley and Newport Krogers. Yet, it is almost always packed. 

 

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^ It is not a Marketplace store, but it is still part of Kroger's new corporate philosophy -- close the smaller Corryville and Walnut Hills stores and build a new, bigger store for residents of both neighborhoods to shop.

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The old store was actually somewhat smaller than what the aerial indicates because over the covered walkway.  There was also that odd second entrance to the Walgreen's Pharmacy area that looks like it was locked two weeks after being built in 1970 and never reopened.  

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2 hours ago, troeros said:

 

It was just a really sketchy and uninviting Kroger with weird alley-halls and poor lighting at night that makes you feel like you could get jumped and mugged at any moment.

 

That was the entire city in the 1990s and 2000s.  There was tons of drug dealing, prostitution, and loitering all over the place.  Cell phones moved almost all of that indoors.  

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