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15 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

I wonder of the two mirrored buildings are laid out in such a way as to connect in another construction phase. 

Don't think so. Based on the elevation change and how they've designed it, the two buildings appear to be constructed at different heights and so the floors likely won't line up. 

 

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15 hours ago, neilworms said:

Here we go again sigh...

 

Just FYI they weren't tearing down any historic buildings for this. I'm sure there were historic buildings here but not certain when they were torn down.

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Uptown owned those small circa-1990 apartment buildings.  They also own some of the stuff on the block north but didn't buy up individual buildings that have hit the market in the last 2-3 years so I guess they're saving money for this project and others. 

 

Safe for now:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1334267,-84.5041757,3a,75y,299.81h,89.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4evaR4wHlX6grjuw5XG6HQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

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I wonder if Uptown Properties has ever considered renovating an entire block of those old homes into luxury townhomes with high end finishes and marketing them towards doctors and professors who work nearby, rather than demolishing them and building more student housing.

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^Maybe they're holding onto that site for a high-rise. I recall that when Stetson Square was under construction, there had been a few homes on MLK in that spot, and a red one stayed for maybe five years after the project was finished.  Maybe until 2010 or 2011 when it was demolished after sitting vacant for a few years. 

 

The really big potential project is the Talbert House block.  I think a developer could work out a deal where they build a new facility for the Talbert House on its current parking lot, extend Rochelle or Stetson to Burnet, and then build a large mixed-use project facing MLK. 

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1345371,-84.5012988,429m/data=!3m1!1e3

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This long-vacant building in the middle of Corryville is finally being renovated:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1310414,-84.503012,3a,75y,319.3h,90.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sREb896D376pYXaRW6NluyQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

This one on the other side of the same block was renovated in 2018:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1317748,-84.5028798,3a,57.6y,229.43h,103.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svNKGiUEDPgdWf4X92EnETQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

Very few if any vacant buildings are left in Corryville.  We now might see some one-off homes and small multifamilies built on vacant lots. 

 

Also, the building at the corner of Highland and McMillan was finished in mid-2018 but nothing has moved into the space.  This is rumored to be the new Stagerlee's but I have not seen anything written to that effect:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1268104,-84.5033704,3a,75y,143.02h,93.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saH1vGH1xd0oyVZAzAljeLA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

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On 12/21/2018 at 3:42 PM, taestell said:

I wonder if Uptown Properties has ever considered renovating an entire block of those old homes into luxury townhomes with high end finishes and marketing them towards doctors and professors who work nearby, rather than demolishing them and building more student housing.

I wish we had done that during the urban renewal era in places like Kenyon-Barr as well. I have a feeling developers (and government agencies) find it easier to plop down generic cookie-cutter stuff that's all the variation of the same plan and can be quickly built rather than taking the time to manage and assess the individual needs of a bunch of individual properties. Too much that they won't have control over.


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I lived off of Straight Street a decade ago an am super keen to see how this old Deaconess development pans out. As the student population at UC grows, there is going to be less and less room to develop, as has been discussed ad nauseum. There are the Ohio Ave. developments on that side of campus, developments heading toward short Vine, the newer places lining Calhoun...what area will come next after the Deaconess side? 

 

If I were a student now, I would look into places around Camp Washington which is a short drive (or bike ride if you have strong glutes) up and down the hill, and still seems to offer affordable rent. The evolution of this campus and the CUF area in general since I first toured it in 2000 up until now has been fascinating. I am wondering how this place will evolve in the coming decade. 

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As someone who lives in Camp Washington, it's not really a good place for students. There needs to be some more development in the area first. The housing stock is almost completely made up of super low income properties. I can see some bold kids living in the Camp, but it takes a certain kind of person. There are also very little amenities in the neighborhood.

 

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A small building on Vine just south of Madfrog was recently demolished.  Also, right next to that, the Simply for U Hair Salon was for sale a year ago or so.  I could see a small apartment going in there, and then start to see more development creep down Vine.

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4 hours ago, JoeHarmon said:

A small building on Vine just south of Madfrog was recently demolished.  Also, right next to that, the Simply for U Hair Salon was for sale a year ago or so.  I could see a small apartment going in there, and then start to see more development creep down Vine.

 

Are you talking about the 2 story historic building? If so that's a shame, someone from Cincinnati preservation collective needs to get the VINE St hill a protected local historic district stat.

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4 hours ago, Yves Behar said:

As someone who lives in Camp Washington, it's not really a good place for students. There needs to be some more development in the area first. The housing stock is almost completely made up of super low income properties. I can see some bold kids living in the Camp, but it takes a certain kind of person. There are also very little amenities in the neighborhood.

 

 

One-by-one, the formerly cheap housing at the bottom of Straight St. is getting slightly better tenants and the people who are truly broke are decamping for The Camp and Fairmount.   

 

Specifically, McMicken, Tafel, Devotie, Wagner, Halstead, the bottom of Marshall, etc. 

 

 

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30 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

One-by-one, the formerly cheap housing at the bottom of Straight St. is getting slightly better tenants and the people who are truly broke are decamping for The Camp and Fairmount.   

 

Specifically, McMicken, Tafel, Devotie, Wagner, Halstead, the bottom of Marshall, etc. 

 

 

 

I guess this was more the area I was thinking of, not necessarily further over toward Spring Grove. I like that area though, it has a certain charm.

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3 hours ago, troeros said:

 

Are you talking about the 2 story historic building? If so that's a shame, someone from Cincinnati preservation collective needs to get the VINE St hill a protected local historic district stat.

 

No, it's this one.

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^^ I've said it before in other threads, but McMicken between Marshall and Ravine is my favorite section of street in Cincinnati. I haven't been down that way in ages - have they ever managed to successfully curb the prostitution that was going on in that area?


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12 minutes ago, ucgrady said:

I was propositioned in that stretch while riding my bike a couple years ago. I remember wondering how that would physically have worked...

 

My former roommate delivered a pizza to Rhinegeist and came back to a girl sitting in his car. 

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3 hours ago, BigDipper 80 said:

^^ I've said it before in other threads, but McMicken between Marshall and Ravine is my favorite section of street in Cincinnati. I haven't been down that way in ages - have they ever managed to successfully curb the prostitution that was going on in that area?

 

McMicken west of Elm is still full of a lot of loitering and illicit activity.

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On 1/4/2019 at 6:47 PM, jmecklenborg said:

 

My former roommate delivered a pizza to Rhinegeist and came back to a girl sitting in his car. 

 

Similar thing happened to me at the corner of Elm and McMicken. I was stopped waiting at a red light and a girl walked up and opened my passenger door and just climbed in. I would have thought they'd be more subtle, but they're like used car salesmen out there.

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Deaconess is coming down:

 

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Demolition begins on the Deaconess Hospital property January 15, 2019. In the first phase, the Goetz building will come down, followed by the East Tower, Frersing Building and the West Tower.

 

During demolition hours Straight Street and University Court will be closed to allow for materials to be removed from the demolition site. These streets will re-open when demolition ends for the day.

 

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I would have loved for them to save some of the Deaconess hospital and incorporate it into their proposed plans. In particular the part that fronts the corner of Straight and Clifton. But the fact that we're getting this development period is incredible. I keep telling people the fact that the market and demand for a project like this in addition to all the others in CUF is going through speaks to the importance of UC in the city. I feel like finally Cincinnati is leveraging UC the way Columbus leverages OSU, and this is where Cincinnati will see its future growth come from. Better late than never to ride the proverbial wave of the knowledge economy. 

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1 hour ago, Lucas_uLsac said:

I would have loved for them to save some of the Deaconess hospital and incorporate it into their proposed plans. In particular the part that fronts the corner of Straight and Clifton. But the fact that we're getting this development period is incredible. I keep telling people the fact that the market and demand for a project like this in addition to all the others in CUF is going through speaks to the importance of UC in the city. I feel like finally Cincinnati is leveraging UC the way Columbus leverages OSU, and this is where Cincinnati will see its future growth come from. Better late than never to ride the proverbial wave of the knowledge economy. 

 

The most recent plans showed them preseving the historic building

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2 hours ago, troeros said:

 

The most recent plans showed them preseving the historic building

 

Must of missed that. That's great, I was worried they would scrap that part and it would be a weird transition to the high school and the surrounding area with a cheap yuppy box. 

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It would appear as if demolition has begun on the west side of the building:

https://local12.com/news/local/crews-demolish-the-former-deaconess-hospital-site?fbclid=IwAR0A1OSQoYE_GE_bLxVc7AhjXpQ9NN5MiKStgQ23u2Lg7VAMiERrBmGx1-k

 

While walking to the bus stop on Friday I noticed crews extracting the stone medallions from the facade on the east side of the building. I suppose we can expect to see them reincorporated in the new building. I don’t have confidence that the reincorporation will be tastefully done.

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23 hours ago, Chas Wiederhold said:

It would appear as if demolition has begun on the west side of the building:

https://local12.com/news/local/crews-demolish-the-former-deaconess-hospital-site?fbclid=IwAR0A1OSQoYE_GE_bLxVc7AhjXpQ9NN5MiKStgQ23u2Lg7VAMiERrBmGx1-k

 

While walking to the bus stop on Friday I noticed crews extracting the stone medallions from the facade on the east side of the building. I suppose we can expect to see them reincorporated in the new building. I don’t have confidence that the reincorporation will be tastefully done.

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So I'm confused the latest plan by the developer showed that they were going to preserve this building...is that still the case?

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On 1/1/2019 at 4:58 PM, jmecklenborg said:

Also, the building at the corner of Highland and McMillan was finished in mid-2018 but nothing has moved into the space.  This is rumored to be the new Stagerlee's but I have not seen anything written to that effect:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1268104,-84.5033704,3a,75y,143.02h,93.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saH1vGH1xd0oyVZAzAljeLA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

Stagerlee's is not moving, but they were planning on it when construction started. Not sure what's happening, but there is apparently residential on the second floor.

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