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my bro's stunning collection of lake erie shots from around the eastside lorain harbor -- enjoy!

 

 

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bonus -- this is spring runoff at a park in sheffield lake

 

 

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Ohio is lucky to have a treasure like Lake Erie.


"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

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Those are gorgeous. I can't say I ever say anyone stand up paddle boarding on the lake, and I often wondered why, it seems like it would be perfect in the summer.

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Scenes like that mrnyc are what make me believe that Ohio doesn't do enough to market itself. If more people knew you could sit back and look at a view like that I think they would think differently about our state.

 

For now we're just a state full of snow and corn to the masses. lol.

 

Nice pic!

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Scenes like that mrnyc are what make me believe that Ohio doesn't do enough to market itself. If more people knew you could sit back and look at a view like that I think they would think differently about our state.

 

For now we're just a state full of snow and corn to the masses. lol.

 

Nice pic!

 

Exactly. Call Ohio "coastal" and yes, you get funny looks from people who should know better.

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i think we lost a bunch here,

but we should definately build a lake erie thread back up

 

 

more from my bro

 

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I just flew back from New York over Lake Erie, and there is unbelievable ice cover. It seems way more than normal. Prime photo ops for people in Ohio to go out and ice hike!

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Some historic pics and comments from my good friend,  Neal Luoma.

 

Neal is a retired longshoreman who grew up and still lives in Saybrook, a quiet coastal town just east of Geneva-on-the-Lake. His family ran a campground that was very popular at one time. Working class families from Youngstown and Pittsburgh would spend there summers there, swimming and camping along the beach.

 

during the 1950's Neal picked up surfing while on trips to Florida with his family. He brought his passion for waves back to Ohio and naturally he taught the kids at the campground to surf. By the end of the 1960's there was a vibrant, if hidden, surfing community in Saybrook, Ohio, all thanks to Neal.

 

Gradually over-development and rising lake levels led to erosion that wiped out many of the sand beaches, and people stopped coming up to the Lake. The coastal resort towns like Geneva were hit hard, and looked destined for ruins. For quite a few years Neal was the only surfer in Ohio.

 

When surfing here started to get popular again in the 1990's, Neal was there to share generous advice on tracking storms and finding the best wave spots for every weather condition. So many years later he's still out there in the water, and his Surfers Point Campground is still open for business. Stop in and say hi!

 

pic 1 Lots of sand on Lake Erie's shore protected the hillside from erosion back then. Shadow my dad.

 

pic 2 My Grandmother standing on her wide beach back before the high flooding lake levels of today.

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That's really cool. I was just in Florida at the beginning of the month and the surf off Juno beach wasn't much different than what that guy is surfing on.

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So I have always wondered how surfing on Lake Erie works. Are surfing conditions most optimal when the beaches are typically closed for unsafe rip-tide? And are the best waves in the fall, winter, and early spring?

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^What I've seen the most on all the lakes is fall surfing. The Gales of November seem to bring people out. It's wetsuit surfing, similar to what you see in Northern California. Water temperatures are actually similar on the lakes that time of year (50-60 degrees in early November and dropping throughout the month). I haven't seen anyone beyond November. In December, the water can get down to 40 degrees, and ice can start forming on the edges even before the official start of winter if it's a bad year (I used to see this in Toledo where the water is shallow).

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I've been snapping cell phone pics of Lake Erie from downtown vantage points in various stages of freeze/thaw for the last couple weeks.  I find it fascinating. 

 

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A very tropical-looking view of Kelleys Island from Perry's Monument on South Bass Island (June 2015):

 

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You cannot beat a Lake Erie (sunrise or) sunset. Period. Here's a little hometown love!  Sandusky's Jackson Street Pier at dusk on a warm June night:

 

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^  There seems to be tons of sand beach at Villa. Maybe they can now remove those breakwalls?

 

For the record, this was last July.

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Bump for the summer season!

 

I made a quick visit home a few weeks ago....and Lake Erie was extremely beautiful! I've never seen the water this clear (neither had my dad and grandma, lifelong Sandusky area residents).  If/when we finally get our act together (talking about environmental regulations for the Great Lakes), Ohio's largest environmental asset will truly be a sparkling gem!

 

These pics were taken on South Bass Island / Put-in-Bay on May 25, 2016:

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And some Sandusky Bay sunset photos:

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Have a great summer!

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Wow, that water looks fabulous.

 

Is this clear of water a reflection of mostly cleaning up the water ways due to EPA Water Acts?  Or, does the zebra muscle have an affect here, or combination of both?

 

I was back home in Iowa this past weekend for work and swung out to my grandparents for the weekend.  I was talking with a friend who "sells" farmers native prairie grasses through steps and drops in farmland.  It's a tough sell for the farmers, but he has implemented 40 farms in the last year, a really high number considering how much the land is worth there.  This prairie grass filters out 90-95% of nitrates running through fields through the roots of the plants.  They are also working on new technologies on tiling, where towards the end of the tiles they pull them and connect them to a perpendicular tile, which runs parallel to the drainage ditch.  The area between the drainage ditch and the parallel tile they plant native prairie grass, filtering out many more nitrates and fertilizers while also slowing the flow of water.  This has many, many benefits besides cleaning the water and slowing flooding.  It also brings back native grasses, beetles, birds and all sorts of creatures. 

 

Does this also have a movement in the agriculture rich areas of the Erie watershed?  Water quality and natural preservation I believe are going to be some of the biggest issues facing our world and country in the 21st Century

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a combination.

 

the water acts, the loss of industry, better awareness and related actions and then perhaps mostly due, or at least most recently, due to the zebra mussels.

 

there is a very obvious and significant change for the better over the years in the water clarity.

 

unfortunately, the zebra mussels bring their own very serious sets of problems, like the resultant algae blooms for example:

http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/15693/20150717/toxic-algae-expected-lake-erie-potentially-worst.htm

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^^very true.  The balance of nature has been in turmoil for about the last 150 years with the industrialization and farming around the lake.  I'm not sure we'll ever get it back to natural, but every little thing helps.

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It's crazy how much land is manipulated but even crazier how fast it comes back.  In Iowa, the DNR has a re-purchase program where they buy back land from a farmer on a lease, they cut out the tiles, and let it go back to it's native form.  There is no manipulation needed on the DNR's end except to plant some seeds and let nature take it's course.

 

99% of Iowa's prairie and 99.5% of Iowa's wetlands are gone becuase of agriculture.  You are right, every little bit helps.  I assume the same thing for Ohio in Iowa, not much of the native land is left.

 

 

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I have noticed lately that Canada doesn’t make much use of the lakeshore.  It’s almost entirely agricultural right up to the shore and I don’t think there’s a town bigger than 20,000 on the shore itself.  Perhaps this is because there aren’t the rivers we have here (glaciation caused, no doubt) but it still seems odd.

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I have noticed lately that Canada doesn’t make much use of the lakeshore.  It’s almost entirely agricultural right up to the shore and I don’t think there’s a town bigger than 20,000 on the shore itself.  Perhaps this is because there aren’t the rivers we have here (glaciation caused, no doubt) but it still seems odd.

Leamington, Ontario is 28,000. While your point is still valid, you just need to raise the number to 30,0000  :-D.

 

True that Canadian cities on Lake Ontario are made around rivers - Toronto has the Rouge River, the Don River, and the Humber River and Mississauga has the Credit River, but possibly the main point is that every major population center on the Eastern half of Canada has very easy access from the St. Lawrence River. The St. Lawrence River comes from Atlantic Ocean and goes through Quebec City then Montreal. Then its tributary, Ottawa River, splits off and the city of Ottawa is on Ottawa River. Continue down St. Lawrence River and it's a very straightforward path to Toronto. I suppose it could have continued to Lake Erie but the path is a lot less direct.

 

Doing a bit of research, both Kingston and Toronto were founded as French military/trading posts. While Quebec City was incorporated around 1600 and Montreal in 1642, Kingston was founded 1673 and Toronto in 1750. In 1763, the Treaty of Paris was signed ending the French rule of Canada. The War of 1812 was focused around Lake Erie and according to Wikipedia, "American forces took control of Lake Erie in 1813, driving the British out of western Ontario." I have to work now so I can't continue my Wikipediaing, but I think it's a combination of the convenience of the route through the St. Lawrence River, the end of the French rule, and the fact that the Battle of 1812 was focused around Lake Erie and Great Britain lost.

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