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3 hours ago, aderwent said:

Although it hasn't really been challenged hardly. 

A fair point. 

 

If only the city and state had the vision to cap 70 all the way from Front to at least 71 or beyond, a denser Livingston would be even more of a no brainer. 

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In this Dispatch article you can see just how nutty they are. Talking about all the tall buildings going up in the Short North and how that could happen to German Village etc. Even if that did(which is hardly possible)it would not even BE in German Village-both sides of South High are in the Brewery District. They are just nuts. Historic Preservation!!!-really? Parking lots and an ugly stucco one story thing? 

 

I would not be surprised for them to call for a Cordon Sanitaire to be bulldozed all around German Village...a block wide strip of asphalt parking surrounding the place to protect it from even abutting anything *gasp* not brick or over two floors. 

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The 'Protect Old North!' Nimby group just firing up their engines... because this is clearly relevant to that community and protecting the 1980s carryout that's been empty for years, or the 1970s apartment etc etc...

 

It's kind of maddening the lack of context, thought, and foresight these people have. 

 

17 hours ago, TH3BUDDHA said:

I don't get it.  Is it an ego thing?  Do they just like feeling powerful that they are able to halt a big developer from doing something?   I don't see any other explanation for trying to save that.

 

I would argue it's more of a gated community mindset. We have our exclusive community as it is. If you can't fit in to it as is, we don't want you or your monstrosities. 

 

I also love the concept of 'you can't build that modern thing here. It has no place in a historical area!'  Where the heck are you supposed to build anything modern if the only precedent for a new building should always be the oldest building(s) within a few block radius?! 'Keep that riff raff architecture outside 270'

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20 hours ago, aderwent said:

GV has ridiculously awesome history they've managed to not only preserve, but keep up to date. It's a delicate balance, and they've done well. Although it hasn't really been challenged hardly. This hotel being the hardest test says something, because it's a no-brainer development, and is not even remotely inappropriate.

 

You must have missed the great gas meter war of 2017.

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11 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

The 'Protect Old North!' Nimby group just firing up their engines... because this is clearly relevant to that community...

 

Re: 'Protect Old North!' At one point today, a resident said the developers should be rounded up and killed for such monstrosities...

 

 

and then continued to lament how steel and glass is inappropriate for anywhere except for Morse road and 'give an inch and they'll tear down a whole neighborhood.' Blah blah. 

 

So that went as well as to be expected. Its time we get together with shovels and hammers in support of these projects to counteract those with pitchforks and torches. I've been making sure to email my commission each time it's relevant and I cant attend. 

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^In fairness to the Protect Old North group, they did help save the Pavey block on campus. The original plan demolished most of the buildings. Driving by you don't even notice the 5 story apartment building behind the historic homes. The group's protests help create a better project in my opinion.

 

But yeah, there's the one guy just going off on that page. 

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That David Ettinger guy is well-known.  He's often one of the primary naysayers of every project on the ColumbusUnderground FB page as well.  He's all over the place trashing development.  Most of these people have nothing going on in their lives and need a cause.  Being anti-change is their cause, regardless of how dumb their arguments are.  Neighborhood commissions give them FAR too much power, probably because some of the same types of people are also on neighborhood commissions.

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Looks like the hotel has a facebook page - they posted a few more renderings. https://www.facebook.com/themcgown/

 

City Park side

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Pearl Alley side

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Seriously. What is wrong with that at all? They took the care and attention to step down to meet the aesthetic as it goes back toward the residence. *gasp* they want to use metal and glass on the front facing a highway! *clutches pearls* 

 

I think they have done a wonderful job bringing the two aesthetics together and it looks amazing. 

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38 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

Seriously. What is wrong with that at all? They took the care and attention to step down to meet the aesthetic as it goes back toward the residence. *gasp* they want to use metal and glass on the front facing a highway! *clutches pearls* 

 

I think they have done a wonderful job bringing the two aesthetics together and it looks amazing. 

I agree, this looks great. I think it fits in great, and the back side steps down to fit in more. 

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New Design Floated for German Village Hotel

 

The developer behind a proposal to build a hotel at the corner of Livingston and City Park avenues is hoping a new design can help the project gain approval from the German Village Commission.

 

The new design, from local firm Moody Nolan, features a mix of brick, stainless steel, metal tile, glass and wood. The five-story hotel would hold 135 rooms over a 139-space basement parking garage, and would feature several green roofs as well as a plant-covered wall.

 

Two existing buildings at 485-489 City Park Ave. would be renovated and incorporated into the project as restaurant and meeting space. The new hotel would sit on land that currently holds a surface parking lot and a one-story office building (at 31-35 E. Livingston Ave.), which would be demolished.

 

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https://www.columbusunderground.com/new-design-floated-for-german-village-hotel-bw1

 

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^ That is just ridiculous! You can see looking west down Livingston where High is part of the Brewery District. I almost hope they line South High with 12+ story buildings that will cause half the NIMBY German Villains to stroke out. First having gas meters *gasp* on the outside of homes, and now a monstrous five story building covering up low rise cheap stucco buildings and parking lots!-what will happen next!!!! -get me my smelling salts!   I must have my aromatics and recline dramatically on my settee!  

 

 

 

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Oh god, the gaspocalypse of a few years back... seriously people would rather have to leave their houses unlocked all on the same day (which everyone knows is happening) than have the gas meters in the alley.

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None of the insufferable NIMBYs have people who'd want to visit them so they don't see the need for a "monstrous" hotel. The more reasonable people in the neighborhood would probably love for guests to be able to stay in the neighborhood. Not to mention business owners in German Village. Where are their comments?

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50 minutes ago, aderwent said:

Where are their comments?

 

Honestly, they may be quiet as support for such a project would raise immense backlash. We are already seeing the drama of committee members resigning etc. 

 

I hope to god the city flips the bird at the community and overrides them if they turn it down. I want to see someone chain themselves to the parking lot. 

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3 hours ago, aderwent said:

None of the insufferable NIMBYs have people who'd want to visit them so they don't see the need for a "monstrous" hotel. The more reasonable people in the neighborhood would probably love for guests to be able to stay in the neighborhood. Not to mention business owners in German Village. Where are their comments?

You can find all the NIMBY comments on CU’s Facebook page, and possible the dispatch article as well. 

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Remember, you can also always email your commissions and city in support of a project if you cant make a meeting. Something I try to do when I support a project and cant attend. 

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I really like this updated design. I could understand pushback if they had proposed tearing down a historic building to build this in the middle of German Village, but this is a parking lot location along an overgrown highway on the fringe of neighborhood. If you were playing SimCity and wanted to plop down a new building, this is where you'd put it. 

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I attended the commission meeting last night. The developer gave a presentation and the commission and public commented. No vote was taken since it was a conceptual review. Of the 25 or so members of the public who commented, no one was for the project. It seemed like a coordinated effort by the GV Society - they all had prepared typed statements they read. None of the commissioners were for the project either - they all said it was too tall. One commissioner said that even though the site was zoned for 35' height he would oppose a 35' building. After the meeting, I passed by the GV Society and one of the commissioners yucking it up in the garage.

 

I get the public's concern that they do not want to set a precedent for future developments within GV, but this is at the edge. They were concerned that the architecture doesn't match GV. Several didn't want the noise of a rooftop bar even though the developer specifically stated in the presentation that there is no roof top bar. They weren't there to listen, just categorically oppose new development. They don't want GV to turn into the Short North or the "suburban office park" Children's Hospital is building. Some were opposed to new commercial development within GV. Some didn't want to loose the parking lot.

 

My sense it that they want to build a dome over GV and pump it full of formaldehyde like Lenin in his tomb. 

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57 minutes ago, Pablo said:

I attended the commission meeting last night. The developer gave a presentation and the commission and public commented. No vote was taken since it was a conceptual review. Of the 25 or so members of the public who commented, no one was for the project. It seemed like a coordinated effort by the GV Society - they all had prepared typed statements they read. None of the commissioners were for the project either - they all said it was too tall. One commissioner said that even though the site was zoned for 35' height he would oppose a 35' building. After the meeting, I passed by the GV Society and one of the commissioners yucking it up in the garage.

 

I get the public's concern that they do not want to set a precedent for future developments within GV, but this is at the edge. They were concerned that the architecture doesn't match GV. Several didn't want the noise of a rooftop bar even though the developer specifically stated in the presentation that there is no roof top bar. They weren't there to listen, just categorically oppose new development. They don't want GV to turn into the Short North or the "suburban office park" Children's Hospital is building. Some were opposed to new commercial development within GV. Some didn't want to loose the parking lot.

 

My sense it that they want to build a dome over GV and pump it full of formaldehyde like Lenin in his tomb. 

 

I didn't know it was possible to be thrown into a state of pure rage from a paragraph regarding development, but it seems one can. Mind-blowing that its gotten to this point and they are all acting like this about a hotel... that's currently a parking lot... against an 8 lane sunken freeway. 

 

I think, for maybe only the second time ever, I'd like to see the developer just say 'eff the commission and go to the city for approval. As far as I am aware it hasn't happened as explained above, but at this point the developer, in my eyes has exhausted all their options and tried to play good neighbor to people who aren't even really going to be a neighbor. 

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45 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

 

I didn't know it was possible to be thrown into a state of pure rage from a paragraph regarding development, but it seems one can. Mind-blowing that its gotten to this point and they are all acting like this about a hotel... that's currently a parking lot... against an 8 lane sunken freeway. 

 

For I think only the second time ever, I'd like to see the developer just say 'eff the commission and go to the city for approval. As far as I am aware it hasn't happened as explained above, but at this point the developer, in my eyes has exhausted all their options and tried to play good neighbor to people who aren't even really going to be a neighbor. 

 

Agreed.  The fact that one of the commissioners is rejecting a project height that adheres to the existing zoning because they just don't like the height is ridiculous.  When you're facing that level of totally unreasonable NIMBYism, it's time to go around them altogether.  It's what I wish the developer with the 2nd and High project would've done instead of backing down to the "but muh sunshine" people.  I understand some pushback when developers aren't trying to work with the neighborhood, but this is just one of those times when irrational opposition has stopped all constructive dialogue.

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Um. Yeah that's rage-inducing. Completely baffling.

 

Can they surpass the commission for city approval? It's not hard to see how ridiculous they're being.

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2 hours ago, Zyrokai said:

Um. Yeah that's rage-inducing. Completely baffling.

 

Can they surpass the commission for city approval? It's not hard to see how ridiculous they're being.

 

Yes, they can. The commissions are advisory but legally have no power, they cannot truly stop a project. However, while not having power, they were placed there by the city for the purpose of maintaining architectural and design integrity on a granular level. So, If a developer fails to gain approval they have two paths they can take...

 

First is the Board of Commissions Appeals, this is an advisory board made up of 5 mayoral appointed commissioners who will review and discuss any project or application that has been denied by one of the architectural commissions. The Appeals commission meets as needed (the last time was March), a developer will be given the floor to fully explain, reason, and discuss why they are coming to the appeals commission, and if the appeals commission overturns the neighborhood commissions decision then it's done and the project can progress forward. If denied, the developer can either go back to square one, abandon the project, or attempt to win over the commission again. 

 

Second is just saying screw the commissions and moving forward with applications, however that is where it gets tricky because the devil is in the details. A developer goes to the commissions because they are looking for architectural approval and because they need variances, and variances are the key piece here. If a developer decides to surpass the commission and has asked for variances, they project is likely going to die because the city isn't likely to break their code without the approval of the related commission (the issue with the Second and High project). However, if the project doesn't violate/need variances on zoning, height, parking, or materials, they city cannot deny the application no matter what the commission says. The codes are developed in conjunction with the neighborhoods, so if a developer manages to create a project that doesn't violate any existing guidelines but is just not liked by the commission, the developer can apply for permits and it'll be approved. 

 

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I don't usually comment on topics and I truly appreciate the interest and passion that people on this site have for development and positive progress in our city.

But, after spending $375,000 on a small house in German village I understand why the gas meter fiasco happened, I absolutely did not want that ugly monstrosity on the sidewalk in front if my house.

I'm more of a YIMBY than a NIMBY, but GV and Columbus desreve is the best quality architecture and  appropriateness as any other City.

GV is the largest privately restored community in the United States and one of the most unique communities in all of North America. Concerning the hotel project, I've seen elegant new historical looking hotels built in Boston and Washington DC,  GV deserves the same quality. The current proposal is nice but it could be built anywhere in the city. 

I'm pretty sure the developer will come back with something that makes everyone happy and it will happen.

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26 minutes ago, Rowntowner said:

I don't usually comment on topics and I truly appreciate the interest and passion that people on this site have for development and positive progress in our city.

But, after spending $375,000 on a small house in German village I understand why the gas meter fiasco happened, I absolutely did not want that ugly monstrosity on the sidewalk in front if my house.

I'm more of a YIMBY than a NIMBY, but GV and Columbus desreve is the best quality architecture and  appropriateness as any other City.

GV is the largest privately restored community in the United States and one of the most unique communities in all of North America. Concerning the hotel project, I've seen elegant new historical looking hotels built in Boston and Washington DC,  GV deserves the same quality. The current proposal is nice but it could be built anywhere in the city. 

I'm pretty sure the developer will come back with something that makes everyone happy and it will happen.

I can appreciate wanting it to look even more like the rest of German village. The problem seems to be most of the people are complaining about height. The developer has to be able to make money from the hotel, and cutting height can have a huge impact on the income from the hotel. 

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58 minutes ago, Rowntowner said:

I don't usually comment on topics and I truly appreciate the interest and passion that people on this site have for development and positive progress in our city.

But, after spending $375,000 on a small house in German village I understand why the gas meter fiasco happened, I absolutely did not want that ugly monstrosity on the sidewalk in front if my house.

I'm more of a YIMBY than a NIMBY, but GV and Columbus desreve is the best quality architecture and  appropriateness as any other City.

GV is the largest privately restored community in the United States and one of the most unique communities in all of North America. Concerning the hotel project, I've seen elegant new historical looking hotels built in Boston and Washington DC,  GV deserves the same quality. The current proposal is nice but it could be built anywhere in the city. 

I'm pretty sure the developer will come back with something that makes everyone happy and it will happen.

 

Saying that a project that, design-wise, could "be built anywhere in the city" is a curious argument to make when demanding that it look exactly like everything else in the surrounding neighborhood.  The building it would replace looks nothing like the rest of the neighborhood, and the current proposed design incorporates a lot of brick, the primary material of GV construction. 

People aren't going to be happy unless there is no development at all or it's 1-2 stories max.  

Where was this outcry with the High Street Panera, btw? I know that was an adaptation of an existing building, but it's interesting that there didn't seem to be the strong opposition to what is essentially a fast food outlet and parking lot.  Was that maintaining the historical heritage of the neighborhood?  

 

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42 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

I can appreciate wanting it to look even more like the rest of German village. The problem seems to be most of the people are complaining about height. The developer has to be able to make money from the hotel, and cutting height can have a huge impact on the income from the hotel. 

 

Yeah, I can't imagine a hotel concept would be profitable with a dozen or so rooms.

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Perhaps some examples of similar projects of complete compatibility would be helpful. From my experience, even in the historic neighborhoods of DC, Baltimore, Chicago, this is not uncommon to have a blend of modern. The reality is though that many are not seeking preservation. They could build a 3 story reproduction of the southern theater, model it after the new LC buildings, etc etc and it would face the same scrutiny. If they nail the design, the conversation with shift to parking, traffic, height, etc. 

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1 hour ago, Pablo said:

^^The Panera on High St is outside of GV.

 

That wouldn't have stopped people from going to commission meetings and speaking out against it.  The GV Commission wouldn't have had any real say, but residents would have.  High Street is definitely the edge of GV to most people and more visible than Livingston, even if the border technically stops at Pearl. 

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From Business First:

 

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"Is there anyone who wants German Village to be another Short North? I just don't see it as a win for German Village," said Jim Nicholson, a 27-year resident of the neighborhood who said the project "pares away our defenses" against taller buildings.

 

"The flaws proposed in the structure seem to be an intractable problem," said Delilah Lopez, executive director of the German Village Society. "This would irrevocably altar the historic fabric of the neighborhood."

 

 

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"irrevocably altar the historic fabric of the neighborhood."

 

This argument is old. Tired. And flat out bat crap crazy.  No. Cars and destroying 1/3 of the neighborhood for a freaking highway did. Building a hotel will not. These people.... yikes.... probably the same type of people woke enough to decry income inequality and homelessness then fund campaigns against low income or homeless resources anywhere near them. Aha! That's it! I wanna see a developer propose a small village of structures that mimic GV 100% and propose that it be transitional housing and resources and see how they react. Let's push the limits and see if it truly is over glass and steel, height, and parking....

 

 

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New German Village hotel proposal met with resistance from neighborhood residents

 

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About two dozen German Village residents spoke out against the latest proposal for a Livingston Avenue hotel during Tuesday's meeting of the German Village Commission.

 

Developer Michael Casey of Wickford Holdings LLC formally presented his idea for a 135-room hotel at 31-35 E. Livingston Ave. to the commission Tuesday night. The proposed hotel would replace a smaller office building on the northern edge of the neighborhood, across the street from the I-70 and I-71 interchange.

 

Casey's team, which includes architect Moody Nolan Inc. and Edge Landscape Architecture & Design, is the second group in two years to attempt a hotel development on the site.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2019/10/02/new-german-village-hotel-proposal-met-with.html


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^^ This really looks good-especially considering what is there now. They need to just approve this and override the damn commission if necessary.  The city needs to send a message to some of these commissions that with a growing city there needs to be some reasonableness and at least some sense of cooperation on their part.  This is NOT going to "irrevocably alter the historic fabric of the neighborhood" or anything even close the that. 

 

If the neighborhood commissions are going to be this obviously unreasonable then the city just needs to call it out and override.

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On 10/2/2019 at 4:28 PM, DTCL11 said:

From Business First:

 

 

 

My favorite: 

 

 

This argument is old. Tired. And flat out bat crap crazy.  No. Cars and destroying 1/3 of the neighborhood for a freaking highway did. Building a hotel will not. These people.... yikes.... probably the same type of people woke enough to decry income inequality and homelessness then fund campaigns against low income or homeless resources anywhere near them. Aha! That's it! I wanna see a developer propose a small village of structures that mimic GV 100% and propose that it be transitional housing and resources and see how they react. Let's push the limits and see if it truly is over glass and steel, height, and parking....

 

 

This really is needed. I would love to see something like this proposed for the old Big Bear site lol.  Or right along HIgh-just out of reach of the GV Commission. The howls of outrage would be heard all the way to Cleveland!

 

*And organize every organization that represents low income/subsidized housing/etc to have round the clock protesting! hahaha  I would join it!

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I had to put this somewhere before I lost it in the Facebook minefield. These people are absolutely insane. Certifiable. They would literally die if they saw how other growing and/or large cities, have blends of old and new next to each other. 1800s victorians next to 2000s modern glass and steel. Oh. The. Horror! And yet, they are still wildly successful neighborhoods and the charm and character is still present. Nothing is lost by such juxtapositions. 

 

"Nothing is Sacred. Not Even German Village"

 

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For luxury condo or apartment developers, we have heard it’s feast or famine. So it’s no surprise they want density in our coolest neighborhoods, which is bad enough. Worse is how they are building boorish and Easton-like monsters without any empathy for current residents or historical preservation.

Nothing is sacred to them. Not even German Village, the city’s most historical and aesthetic neighborhood.

 

'Bad enough they want density in the coolest neighborhoods'.... to which I'd say 95% (ish) was done by building on long vacant land. How dare they! 

 

https://columbusfreepress.com/article/nothing-sacred-not-even-german-village?fbclid=IwAR2uERRemH4WUV4kSi1pSXY9Jb9S6ppWc5CHYb1BAx-21FZZtq-H3MCypW8

 

Edit: other than the typical garbage of 'lifeless boxes with no imagination' regarding design, what is particularly present to me in this article is 2 points.

 

1. The victim card. As if they made somehow taking advantage of them and creating harm. That somehow, the destination they have gained national attention for is wrong to allow visitors direct access with a nearby hotel, or god forbid condos or apartments. 

 

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“We are now at a place where all of a sudden this group of developers have turned and looked South and said, ‘There’s some opportunity there. We can take advantage of the destination, the charm, the identity of German Village for our projects. And we are here to make money. This is the game we play and we are not here to make your life good,’” says Katharine Moore who served as Executive Director of the German Village Society.

 

2. They acknowledge there isn't actually a threat to what has been preserved over all these years. It's all on the borders. (I go back to others suggesting the entire border of german village getting built up with massive buildings outside of GV control) 

 

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 “Are we at a pivotal point? Yes. The pivotal point is encroachment from surrounding areas,” says Delilah Lopez, current Executive Director for the German Village Society. “There’s very minimal actual land within the German Village historical parameters that can even be developed. Are we at risk where we need to be on guard for those particular parcels? Absolutely. Are we? Absolutely.”

 

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The McGown FB page indicates the project will be heard by the GVC on Tuesday January 7th. 

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1 hour ago, DTCL11 said:

I had to put this somewhere before I lost it in the Facebook minefield. These people are absolutely insane. Certifiable. They would literally die if they saw how other growing and/or large cities, have blends of old and new next to each other. 1800s victorians next to 2000s modern glass and steel. Oh. The. Horror! And yet, they are still wildly successful neighborhoods and the charm and character is still present. Nothing is lost by such juxtapositions. 

 

"Nothing is Sacred. Not Even German Village"

 

https://columbusfreepress.com/article/nothing-sacred-not-even-german-village?fbclid=IwAR2uERRemH4WUV4kSi1pSXY9Jb9S6ppWc5CHYb1BAx-21FZZtq-H3MCypW8

 

 

 

They’re literally arguing a parking lot and 1980s office building are sacred and a mix of brick and glass are going to destroy GV. It’s no wonder no one wanted to put their names on this trash article.  

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I am a little confused by the defeatism presented regarding the commission being appointed by the mayor and bought. Seems to be an out of place complaint as if they've been steamrolled by the city time after time? 

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36 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

I am a little confused by the defeatism presented regarding the commission being appointed by the mayor and bought. Seems to be an out of place complaint as if they've been steamrolled by the city time after time? 

Yeah, German Village arguably has, by far, the least amount of new development of any urban neighborhood in the city, not only because of the historic status, but because there is little developable land.  What development they have gotten has matched the neighborhood well, just like this hotel proposal would. These people are smoking crack if they believe the city is working against then.  

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Can this still be built? I need it to be so these people can feel the hate in their hearts bubble over. I will make a new Facebook account after  leaving it 10 years ago just for the meltdowns.

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German Village Hotel Proposal Shrinks

 

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The German Village Commission will soon weigh in on yet another revision of a proposal to build a boutique hotel at the corner of Livingston and City Park avenues.

 

The latest plan calls for the new building to top out at 55 feet in height, about seven feet shorter than a proposal that was brought before the commission in October. That proposal also called for renovating a barn-shaped building, at 485 City Park Ave., that is now proposed for demolition (the small building that faces the street, however, at 489 City Park Ave., would still be preserved).

 

As in previous proposals, most of the new hotel would sit on land that currently holds a surface parking lot and a one-story office building (at 31-35 E. Livingston Ave.), which would be demolished.

 

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https://www.columbusunderground.com/german-village-hotel-proposal-shrinks-bw1


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As a resident of German Village, I was completely fine with the pervious concept.  If these accommodations help change the resident's and commission' s view, I am all for it. The corner that the project would sit on is nothing but parking lots and run down buildings. I know there are some disadvantages of losing those lots, but the overall impact would be greater for Livingston Ave. and the edge of German Village. 

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4 minutes ago, capitalkid1991 said:

As a resident of German Village, I was completely fine with the pervious concept.  If these accommodations help change the resident's and commission' s view, I am all for it. The corner that the project would sit on is nothing but parking lots and run down buildings. I know there are some disadvantages of losing those lots, but the overall impact would be greater for Livingston Ave. and the edge of German Village. 

 

They need people like you who live there to attend the meetings and show some sanity.

 

But I fully expect a coordinated and scripted assault on anything and everything proposed at the meeting, though.

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3 hours ago, Zyrokai said:

 

They need people like you who live there to attend the meetings and show some sanity.

 

But I fully expect a coordinated and scripted assault on anything and everything proposed at the meeting, though.

 

Yeah, it's not really about the height, it being a hotel or having some glass. They are just against development.  I wish they would just take it directly to the city.

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9 hours ago, jonoh81 said:

 

Yeah, it's not really about the height, it being a hotel or having some glass. They are just against development.  I wish they would just take it directly to the city.

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2020/01/07/german-village-hotel-halted-again-on-height.html

 

As expected.  They're trying to make this into a strict interpretation of the existing code, but that's pure BS.  It's a classic example of extreme NIMBYism.  The "fears" are vastly disproportionate to any supposed threat.  

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