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It has been so much of a hit that it is beginning to impact accessibility.

 

I'm wondering if it's becoming too popular.  The traffic is a mess and poorly handled during peak times.  Yesterday the trooper was giving the WB entrance preference over the EB entrance and then later they closed off the 73rd and Shoreway EB exits forcing everyone to go Shoreway West to get out.

 

Cue the obligatory "It's too crowded, nobody goes there...." adage.

 

But i believe you're exactly right. The Park isn't designed to be as popular as it is. It's a good problem, for sure. But one that should by all means be solved.

 

The watered-down Shoreway Blvd. is a big time aesthetic improvement. It's interesting to think about what further proposals (rail, bus, on street parking changes, etc) can lead to better access along the way.

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^ I immediately noticed people improvising ways to get to Edgewater. The parking along Herman Ave. was always crowded on Thursday nights. Giving them about a mile walk to the park. Additionally, I noticed a lot of people getting dropped off by the Capitol theater and just walking.

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It has been so much of a hit that it is beginning to impact accessibility.

 

I'm wondering if it's becoming too popular.  The traffic is a mess and poorly handled during peak times.  Yesterday the trooper was giving the WB entrance preference over the EB entrance and then later they closed off the 73rd and Shoreway EB exits forcing everyone to go Shoreway West to get out.

 

Cue the obligatory "It's too crowded, nobody goes there...." adage.

 

But i believe you're exactly right. The Park isn't designed to be as popular as it is. It's a good problem, for sure. But one that should by all means be solved.

 

The watered-down Shoreway Blvd. is a big time aesthetic improvement. It's interesting to think about what further proposals (rail, bus, on street parking changes, etc) can lead to better access along the way.

 

I think they should slow down with the media buys while they estimate capacity.

 

Additionally, some concessions for access for boaters need to be made as well.

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It has been so much of a hit that it is beginning to impact accessibility.

 

I'm wondering if it's becoming too popular.  The traffic is a mess and poorly handled during peak times.  Yesterday the trooper was giving the WB entrance preference over the EB entrance and then later they closed off the 73rd and Shoreway EB exits forcing everyone to go Shoreway West to get out.

 

Cue the obligatory "It's too crowded, nobody goes there...." adage.

 

But i believe you're exactly right. The Park isn't designed to be as popular as it is. It's a good problem, for sure. But one that should by all means be solved.

 

The watered-down Shoreway Blvd. is a big time aesthetic improvement. It's interesting to think about what further proposals (rail, bus, on street parking changes, etc) can lead to better access along the way.

 

You raise good points... We've been driving into Battery Park, parking, and using the tunnels which feed directly into the new EP beach house and the beach.  After the beach, there are 3 different restaurants to choose from in Battery Park.  We noticed a number of people are parking in BP.  Because of the growing housing density in BP -- including the new apt building going up -- along with the growing popularity of Edgewater Park, it's only a matter of time before BP starts restricting parking there...

 

Public transit could/should be more available and accessible besides the CSU/BRT pullout stop KJP noted... Maybe a Tower City to OC/Hingetown to Edgewater Park then Edgewater Neighborhood LRT would be viable (using the old Shaker Tower City station and the Veterans Memorial Bridge subway then the boulevard of the new Shoreway blvd).

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My family and i went there to meet some friends at the marina on Sunday afternoon. While there was a line of cars waiting to get off the exit from Rt 2, it only took us about 15 minutes to get in to the park. I drove around along the beach, and while it certainly was packed, there was still parking that could be found, so it wasn't a nightmare, just a little bit of a hassle. As we were waiting in line on the exit, CPD came down to the intersection to help the flow of traffic and things moved along much better after that. Maybe the city just has to step in and provide assistance regularly.

 

It was a beautiful day, and it was really neat to see the beach so active, with all the foodtrucks, and activity on the park, etc. Very vibrant.

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This has been the best weather possible for water quality at Edgewater too. Not too hot and not much sewer overflow, due to the lack of rain.

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Way overdue! So is a playground somewhere in downtown Cleveland!

 

 

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https://www.cleveland.com/news/2019/05/rain-causes-raw-sewage-overflow-at-edgewater-beach.html

 

By Laura Johnston, cleveland.com

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Stay out of the water at Edgewater Beach today, since the heavy rain Tuesday caused an overflow of 142,600 gallons of raw sewage and stormwater.

Severe storms hit Cleveland Tuesday evening, pelting the city with more than an inch of rain, according to the National Weather Service. The combined sewer overflow ran into Lake Erie at 8 p.m. Tuesday, according to a news release from Northeast Ohio Regional Sewer District.

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My questions:

- When the big NEORSD storm sewer tunnel project is complete, will it completely eliminate these events or just minimize them?

- When will that project be complete?

 

I'm happy that the overflow events are much less frequent.  I'm relieved that the Ohio Supreme Court ruled in favor of NEORSD a couple years back so this project could keep moving.  (Wow does it bug me that there are people that think it's OK to just dump raw sewage in the lake.)  I'm just anxious for the project to be done so that we can enjoy the full benefit of all the money that is being spent.

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Check out “Project Clean Lake” and they will have the right info.

 

i believe it is something like 97% of all sewage overflows will be eliminated

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44 minutes ago, CbusTransit said:

Check out “Project Clean Lake” and they will have the right info.

 

i believe it is something like 97% of all sewage overflows will be eliminated

 

That is a significant improvement that we should all celebrate.  But we might not get to 97% if the climate change forecasts are correct in calling for more extreme rainfall events than we've seen historically.

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97% of what?  How many gallons or whatever units of raw sewage from sewer overlflow goes into the lake from CLE each year?

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1 hour ago, Pugu said:

97% of what?  How many gallons or whatever units of raw sewage from sewer overlflow goes into the lake from CLE each year?

 

So, the website says “capturing 98% of all combined sewer flows for treatment.

 

It’s also says CSOs will be reduced to 450 million gallons, which is a 90% reduction of what it was when the project started (2010).

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1 hour ago, Pugu said:

a 90% reduction is great, but 450 million gallons of CSO is still a lot!

 

I made a mistake, it’s actually 494 million. But I agree.

 

The consent decree itself is more complicated, there appears to be specific requirements for each individual outfall location.

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