Jump to content
UncleRando

Cincinnati: Walnut Hills / East Walnut Hills: Development and News

Recommended Posts

14 minutes ago, troeros said:

Is this new development proposals? Apologies if old...

 

Park Avenue Square

 

https://wearewalnuthills.org/park-avenue-square/

 

Poste Phase II

 

https://wearewalnuthills.org/poste-phase-2-2/

 

 

 

Troeros you know how to pull up stuff, those look like two great developments.

 

On the Poste Phase II, I don't like all the surface parking, but definitely an upgrade to add more density. If these two get built, that is an additional 200 or so market rate apartments in the neighborhood. Walnut Hills may be moving quicker than anticipated.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

^Right and with the second phase of Poste that's 63 so 239 Total.

 

With the current Poste: 124 Units. So in maybe 3 years time if these two get built, that's 363 Market Rate Units in Walnut Hills, that could end up a huge change in the feel of the neighborhood.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, IAGuy39 said:

^I don't know if I ever see North of McMillan in Walnut Hills ever getting re-developed back to market rate. Maybe fixed up with newer low income housing, etc. and it is really bombed out, but the people that live there won't get pushed out. It kind of rolls into Avondale too. It can be greatly improved though with a mix of new low income and mix of market rate for hospital workers, etc.

 

I do see south of E. McMillan and East of Gilbert becoming a high priced area though in the next 10 years, more than it is now and completely built out.

 

I agree that the area north of McMillan will be slower... but I expect we'll start to see development up around the MLK interchange with I-71. A lot of properties just northwest of Gilbert/MLK have been bought by large investors: MLK Investors I, Nassau Investments (Model Group). I expect we'll see some large scale developments near the MLK interchange, and then smaller developments in the surrounding area. So, I expect we'll see see three centers of growth:

  • Madison/Woodburn
  • Peebles (Gilbert/McMillan)
  • MLK/Gilbert

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, jmecklenborg said:

https://wearewalnuthills.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/WHAC_Park-Ave.-Sq.-Presentation_11-7-19_Final-.pdf

 

According to the link, 176 total units.  

 

88 Studio

68 1-bed

16 2-bed

4   Townhouses

 

If you look at the layout of this thing, the rear parking lot + the entrance is a setup for a future rear parking garage.  So this might be a garage for a future phase on other land or instead apartments above the future garage, although I would only expect it to be a 1-level garage or else the garage itself would block the windows of the rear-facing units.  

 

 

 

 

IMG_2130.JPG

IMG_2131.JPG

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I went by the Greenwich Tavern tonight and it doesn't look good.  As you can see, stuff is stacking up outside the front door.  I asked a guy working at the BBQ trailer if he thinks they're closed permanently and he didn't know.  Model is rehabbing the building at the corner.  There are a huge number of pre-hung doors sitting in the storefront space and a dumpster around the side.

 

Per the auditor's website, the Greenwich's two buildings are owned by a certain Evelyn Dorizas, who has owned them since "1900 See Ownership Card".  So since maybe 1960.  

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1928814,-84.3809891,3a,60y,69.07h,76.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxfRRyDAUqppLgGgmY9bWVQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

 

And here is her obituary from last year:

https://www.tributearchive.com/obituaries/2876613/Evelyn-Dorizas

 

So it's possible that her estate has decided to sell the buildings, which are probably worth a combined $500k.  

 

spacer.png

 

IMG_2135.JPG

 

IMG_2136.JPG

 

IMG_2137.JPG

 

IMG_2139.JPG

Edited by jmecklenborg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, brian korte said:

56 affordable apartments in 3 low rise buildings coming to Lincoln/Gilbert/Foraker. An $11m investment.

 

$11 million residential development planned in Walnut Hills

 

That is good news! Obviously, it seems like its still a few years out and is contingent on getting the LIHTCs, but still good news.

 

One concern I have though is this:

Quote

Also planned to be part of this project is the creation of a public corner plaza at the intersection of Lincoln and Gilbert avenues. The plaza would have art walls, a Red Bike station and a relocated public bus stop. 

 

There already is a plaza at the NW corner of Lincoln and Gilbert, and since ~2013 it has been fenced off to the public. I think it's owned/managed by the homeowners association for the row of houses along Lincoln, serving as a fenced-in greenspace for those houses. Adding another "plaza" to this intersection is misguided, unless the new plaza is very well designed. It probably would be better to build up to the intersection and then create a plaza somewhere more protected where people will actually want to spend time. 

 

image.thumb.png.f80b6706b455fd3b8e221fc9554d8156.png

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

According to a Biz Courier article KEAN or the develpment arm of Fortus expects to break ground at the Anthem site in early 2020. That has been pushed back a lot (I saw in June they said end of 2019) so I kind of believe it when I see it. But that would be a huge jolt for the neighborhood with 322 new market rate apartments. That won't be done if they start in early 2020 until summer of 2022.

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/11/20/exclusive-new-real-estate-development-firm-has-big.html

 

So, with the current Poste, Poste Phase 2, and the possible development at E. McMillan & Park, and Anthem site, we could see in 2.5 years 685 new market rate apartments on board in a small area. This doesn't include everything being done with Model Group in that avenue which probably adds 50 or so but more of a mix of incomes.

 

On another note, driving on MLK you already get a feel for a big city, and with all the new developments coming there off the new MLK interchange it's really going to juice up that whole area feel wise.

 

I wish Uptown was more connected to Downtown with a light rail subway going up the hill all the way to this area and across 71 on MLK up to E. Walnut Hills, but either way, it's a booming area at the moment which will be completely different in 10 years time.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, IAGuy39 said:

 with 322 new market rate apartments.

 

The opening of 141 Wellington plus the rehab of 2301 Auburn brought about 200 new apartments to the center of Mt. Auburn but you hardly see anyone outside.  People are either not home or sitting inside on their computers.  

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, IAGuy39 said:

I wish Uptown was more connected to Downtown with a light rail subway going up the hill all the way to this area and across 71 on MLK up to E. Walnut Hills, but either way, it's a booming area at the moment which will be completely different in 10 years time.

 

...and unfortunately it's impossible for a single transit line to serve everything.  Clifton, Vine, Reading, and Gilbert are the arterials, except Burnet splits from Reading and Woodburn splits (sort of) from Gilbert.  So that's 4 lines and 2 branches, if everything were to get rail transit.    

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

The opening of 141 Wellington plus the rehab of 2301 Auburn brought about 200 new apartments to the center of Mt. Auburn but you hardly see anyone outside.  People are either not home or sitting inside on their computers.  

 

 

A 2019 resident is like 40% of a 1990 resident as due to Universal Couchlock and Amazon.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, GCrites80s said:

 

A 2019 resident is like 40% of a 1990 resident as due to Universal Couchlock and Amazon.

 

Which is weird because me personally, I go absolute nuts sitting in the house. Even watching football, I used to go to a bar and order food, but that got cut out when I got engaged due to too much beer consumption. Which kind of sucks because she doesn't like watching football, she goes to her sisters on Saturday, so I end up stuck in the house with no beer consumption, but that's another discussion all together.

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
26 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

The opening of 141 Wellington plus the rehab of 2301 Auburn brought about 200 new apartments to the center of Mt. Auburn but you hardly see anyone outside.  People are either not home or sitting inside on their computers.  

 

 

It probably doesn't help that Mt. Auburn has no real business district to walk to. Inwood Park though, that place is always deserted. I'd have thought it would have picked up some more activity from the new units. It's a pretty charming area.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 minutes ago, oudd said:

 

It probably doesn't help that Mt. Auburn has no real business district to walk to. Inwood Park though, that place is always deserted. I'd have thought it would have picked up some more activity from the new units. It's a pretty charming area.

 

141 Wellington might not be full yet, but there isn't anything else announced for the area so I wouldn't expect things to improve in the near future.  

 

Walnut Hills now has a trickle of foot activity to the bars at Peeble's Corner, but it's mostly drive-to urbanism.  

 

Last weekend I was going north on Gilbert and tried to turn around at Beecher to go back south because I drove past a delivery address by mistake.  There was a girl working the first Beecher St. corner, then the next, then the next.  I ended up driving all the way to May St., then south all the way to WH Taft in order to avoid driving past the prostitutes a second time.  Somehow it's almost 2020 and old-school street corner prostitution continues in Cincinnati like it's 1970.  

 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I fondly remember being on a tour of OTR and we walked by a prostitue in an ally. I found it funny, most others did not.

Edited by seaswan
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 minutes ago, seaswan said:

I fondly remember being on a tour of OTR and we walked by a prostitue in an ally. I found it funny, most others did not.

 

I was on a walking tour that was mooned by an obese woman who wasn't wearing any underwear.  

 

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

I was on a walking tour that was mooned by an obese woman who wasn't wearing any underwear.  

 

 

I was also on a tour in OTR and we walked onto a guy peeing on a building and then a driver starting yelling profanely at a woman who was slightly in his way on the road.

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...