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CVG Passenger Stats for August

 

August

2018: 815,083

2019: 827,531

Var: +1.5%

 

YTD

2018: 5,982,557

2019: 6,143,946

Var: +2.7%

 

Slower growth for CVG in August compared to July but it was still a strong month overall. As we head into the fall and winter, we'll see how the new AAL seasonal to PHX fares compared to DAL and SWA. There will also be a new route from Allegiant to PBI in November. Overall it has been a strong summer for CVG.

 

I came back from LAX Sunday night on the DAL red eye and it was a packed bird. It was a good 95% load factor on a B739 at 11pm. CVG was humming when we landed too as the morning banks were about to depart. 

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7 hours ago, LtCheese said:

CVG Passenger Stats for August

 

August

2018: 815,083

2019: 827,531

Var: +1.5%

 

YTD

2018: 5,982,557

2019: 6,143,946

Var: +2.7%

 

Slower growth for CVG in August compared to July but it was still a strong month overall. As we head into the fall and winter, we'll see how the new AAL seasonal to PHX fares compared to DAL and SWA. There will also be a new route from Allegiant to PBI in November. Overall it has been a strong summer for CVG.

 

I came back from LAX Sunday night on the DAL red eye and it was a packed bird. It was a good 95% load factor on a B739 at 11pm. CVG was humming when we landed too as the morning banks were about to depart. 

 

Every west coast red-eye flight I have been on the past couple months with Delta, has been near capacity or oversold. (SEA, LAX, SFO, AND LAS) Of the ten flights there was only one that was a half empty flight back from SFO on a Wednesday red-eye 

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I came back on a Delta Vegas red-eye Sunday a couple weeks ago and it was 90+% full.  Also the airport was packed in the morning as I was walking through to leave.  I'm to young to remember it's heyday, I can't imagine what it looked like in the late 90's/early 00's.  

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3 hours ago, Cincy513 said:

I came back on a Delta Vegas red-eye Sunday a couple weeks ago and it was 90+% full.  Also the airport was packed in the morning as I was walking through to leave.  I'm to young to remember it's heyday, I can't imagine what it looked like in the late 90's/early 00's.  

 

When it was number #2 hub in Deltas system, A, B, AND C use to be buzzing. When the flights were all synchronized to fly in at similar hours, man the concourses and trains were packed. Had a ton of energy.  People packing the buses back and forth between C. The lower end gates of B basically being the gateway to Europe. Those were some great times at CVG. 

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There was a time in the 90s when Delta was talking about buying Northwest who was even struggling back then. It never happened of course. However, at the time, the Detroit airport was a dilapidated hull and CVG was brand new. If the merger happened at that time, Detroit would have been gutted and the flights moved to CVG because it was a much better airport. Having to wait 12 years for the merger to actually happen, Detroit was able to build a state of the art terminal and get the bulk of the Midwest hub traffic.

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I worked on the construction project that expanded Concourse C back in 2002 - you're right when you say that that terminal (and the entire airport) was buzzing with folks everywhere during that time period.  It's almost sad to see how much of a dropoff there has been since 2002 (even with the recent resurgence of the airport in recent years).

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Other then the non-stop flights we no longer get, is the region better off without delta? Now we have a few low cost carriers and amazon building their hub here.

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1 minute ago, jmblec2 said:

Other then the non-stop flights we no longer get, is the region better off without delta? Now we have a few low cost carriers and amazon building their hub here.

 

Its hard to say, we lost corporations, because of the lack of service. However, Delta has lowered there prices and brought bigger aircraft for routes. Still not having the large amount of direct flights makes it a longer travel day for people like myself who travel weekly. Its like a 50/50 roll of the dice, wish we had more service, but my clients like the cheaper ticket prices. I still refuse to fly frontier or allegiant, but those airlines are not meant to cater to business travelers. 

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1 hour ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

There was a time in the 90s when Delta was talking about buying Northwest who was even struggling back then. It never happened of course. However, at the time, the Detroit airport was a dilapidated hull and CVG was brand new. If the merger happened at that time, Detroit would have been gutted and the flights moved to CVG because it was a much better airport. Having to wait 12 years for the merger to actually happen, Detroit was able to build a state of the art terminal and get the bulk of the Midwest hub traffic.

 

That was when CVG started discussing Concourse D planning and construction. Once the merger happened, D was dead from the start. 

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On 9/20/2019 at 3:20 PM, jmblec2 said:

Other then the non-stop flights we no longer get, is the region better off without delta? Now we have a few low cost carriers and amazon building their hub here.

 

Well Delta is still the leading carrier at CVG but I think all the legacy carriers have done a good job expanding capacity to the airport. We have more mainline flights than at any point in the last 10 years probably. It's not perfect but things have gotten significantly better for both business and leisure travelers. 

 

Even with my one-stop itinerary this week, I'll still be in PHX by 10:30am so it's not a huge inconvenience.

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On ‎9‎/‎20‎/‎2019 at 1:22 PM, savadams13 said:

The lower end gates of B basically being the gateway to Europe. 

 

When I lived in the international dorm at my college, CVG was at its peak, and all of the international students had flown through it.  It made Cincinnati seem like a much more important place.  

 

When I flew back on Friday there was a polka band set up at the bottom of the escalators.  The whole place looks a bit tired, not unlike the band.  

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It would be nice if we still had that frequency of flights, but CVG is still a nice airport even without true hub status. (I keep seeing mixed reports; in some places Delta still calls CVG a hub but in other places they have reduced it to a "focus city.") For most places that I fly on Delta, there are still one or two direct flights per week, so if I have some flexibility in my schedule, I will try to take those; but on the other days you still have plenty of other options with 1 connection. For shorter flights, connections are annoying, but I almost prefer it when flying to the west coast because it gives you an opportunity to stretch your legs and maybe grab lunch at SLC or MSP.

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Yeah I think CVG really needs a refresh. It would be nice to see Delta invest in the terminal the way they did at places like Austin or Phoenix. I'm not expecting a full on LAX/LGA/SEA type renovation as those are major hubs in the network, but Delta's Concourse in Cincinnati is, as Jake said,  very tired. 

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CVG moves up list of largest cargo airports

 

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Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport has passed one of New York City’s airports on the list of largest cargo airports by volume in the United States.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/09/24/cvg-moves-up-list-of-largest-cargo-airports.html


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5 hours ago, LtCheese said:

Yeah I think CVG really needs a refresh. It would be nice to see Delta invest in the terminal the way they did at places like Austin or Phoenix. I'm not expecting a full on LAX/LGA/SEA type renovation as those are major hubs in the network, but Delta's Concourse in Cincinnati is, as Jake said,  very tired. 

The Skyclub is slated for a refresh, but i don't foresee any additional work beyond what the airport is doing with upgrading restrooms (which the remodeled one is nice) and vendor upgrades in Concourse B. The Herman Miller seating is in great condition, only thing I would do is change out carpeting and paint where necessary. Honestly B doesn't look that bad and I fly in and out weekly. 

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Many airports have not adapted their floor layouts in a logical way since the 2001 terrorist attack and instead are still cramming people through in weird ways.  CVG isn't particularly bad in this regard - certainly not like O'Hare or LAX or many other airports.  But many details of the terminal look like the sort of 1990s mall that has disappeared from America's suburbs.  The trains still have funny-looking pinstripes on them, for example.  None of this is retro-cool yet.  Maybe Stranger Things season 14 will make 1990s malls cool, though.  

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That's like when you see dark gray or forest green marble topped off with brushed brass accents. I'm like "Hey this is neat, it still looks kinda cool" but then hipster-lites are like "UGH, detail! Why doesn't it look like it was made with a rubber stamp?"

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13 hours ago, jmecklenborg said:

Many airports have not adapted their floor layouts in a logical way since the 2001 terrorist attack and instead are still cramming people through in weird ways.  CVG isn't particularly bad in this regard - certainly not like O'Hare or LAX or many other airports.  But many details of the terminal look like the sort of 1990s mall that has disappeared from America's suburbs.  The trains still have funny-looking pinstripes on them, for example.  None of this is retro-cool yet.  Maybe Stranger Things season 14 will make 1990s malls cool, though.  

I think things like the train are minor and really not noticed much. How many airport trains resemble anything memorable anyway.

 

What CVG did right was redesign the security after 9/11. The old system was terrible where you had to walk to the basement of the terminal and then wait in a queue for an hour. At least the new building in the rear of the terminal has much more space for security.  Concourse A is a bit dated but that was built in the 80s. Concourse B still looks nice. Update some flooring but again that it minor. It has all the amenities that other airports of its size have, and more. I don't see it as a big thing.

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16 hours ago, savadams13 said:

The Skyclub is slated for a refresh, but i don't foresee any additional work beyond what the airport is doing with upgrading restrooms (which the remodeled one is nice) and vendor upgrades in Concourse B. The Herman Miller seating is in great condition, only thing I would do is change out carpeting and paint where necessary. Honestly B doesn't look that bad and I fly in and out weekly. 

 

That's a very good point.

 

I didn't know the Skyblub was scheduled for a refresh. Do we know the timing of that? I know Delta has a lot of other big projects going on right now.

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1 hour ago, LtCheese said:

 

That's a very good point.

 

I didn't know the Skyblub was scheduled for a refresh. Do we know the timing of that? I know Delta has a lot of other big projects going on right now.

I dont know exact timing, but its on the list with other hub and focus city skyclubs to get refreshed with a continued roll out of upgrades. 

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15 minutes ago, LtCheese said:

That'll be good. The Skyclub is certainly quieter than it used to be without all the Delta Elites but having a refreshed club will be great.

 

I love what they did with the Austin Skyclub:

 

https://thepointsguy.com/news/tpg-sneak-peek-austins-new-delta-sky-club-lounge/

 

Its crazy to think the old business elite lounge in Concourse B is now a crew lounge. I remember my dad preferring to go in there over the crown room back in the day. The pilots and FA like the swanky crew lounge that use to be the business elite lounge. I think the refresh for the Skyclub is new carpet, furniture, paint, lighting and artwork. Nothing like Austin. Delta is going to make Austin a hub some day. So they are investing heavily. 

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Yeah the growth at AUS is crazy. KLM just launched a flight to AMS there as well so now there's more Skyteam international connectivity.

 

I'll be curious to see what happens there as AUS is a very egalitarian airport today. United, American, and Delta all have a number of mainline routes there already, JetBlue heads to both coasts, and Southwest has a pretty big operation there.

 

In any event, a refreshed Skyclub at CVG will be very nice even if it's just an austere update.

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New CVG flight launches

 

A new flight from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport to Florida is about to begin.

 

Frontier Airlines will launch nonstop service from CVG to Sarasota Bradenton International Airport on Monday evening.

 

The seasonal flight brings Frontier’s service from CVG to 21 destinations. The airline has rapidly expanded both its year-round and seasonal offerings since it began service at CVG in May 2013. It has flown more than 4.4 million passengers to and from CVG since then.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/10/07/new-cvg-flight-launches.html

 

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CVG set to open new lounge

 

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A new lounge for passengers at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport is set to open, providing new amenities to travelers passing through the region.

 

The Escape Lounge will host its grand opening in CVG's Concourse B on Oct. 17. The all-inclusive premium lounge offers unlimited amenities like hot and cold food and beverages, seating with power outlets, high-speed Wi-Fi, flight information and access to more than 7,000 digital publications.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/10/15/cvg-set-to-open-new-lounge.html


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The first crane is up for the CONRAC construction. I would imagine one more, if not two, will be going up as well.

 

Also, the primary building for Amazon's cargo hub is really moving along. If anybody gets a chance they should drive by it. It is massive.

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CVG Passenger Stats for September

 

September

2018: 716,740

2019: 722,372

Var: +0.8%

 

YTD

2018: 6,699,297

2019: 6,866,318

Var: +2.5%

 

September came in relatively flat vs. LY. We will probably see the impact in the new Allegiant and Frontier flights here in October. Obviously there is good overall growth for CVG as evidenced by the new Escape lounge talked about above. There are only 6 here in the US and it's nice to see CVG get some more lounge options for passengers. More amenities are always a good sign.

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CVG fares tick upward

 

The average airfare at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport increased in the second quarter of 2019, but CVG remained the cheapest airport to fly out of in the region, according to the U.S. Department of Transportation.

 

Among the top 100 airports in the country by passenger count for the second quarter of 2019, CVG was the 29th cheapest with an average airfare of $346.44. In the same period in 2018, CVG was the 21st cheapest and had an average fare of $313.75, its best-ever ranking.

 

Nationwide, the average fare was $364.41.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/10/16/cvg-fares-tick-upward.html


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Data: CVG’s passengers are local more than ever before 

 

In September, Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport set a new record for the percentage of passengers who were local rather than connecting through the airport.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/10/29/data-cvg-s-passengers-are-local-more-than-ever.html


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