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Well some bad news to report out of the airport. Delta is quietly getting rid of direct service to Nashville. I am really surprised that this route is being dropped. I used it often for work and the CRJ900 was always full. Between this route and Memphis my work travel has now doubled in time.

 

Another note WOW has decided to go seasonal in Cincinnati instead of going year round. Shame CLE get IcelandAir year round and we are subject to seasonal service with WOW.

 

Still waiting to see what new food service offerings will come to CVG. Hell CLE just landed a shake shack in there terminal...

 

How many of those people flying from Cincinnati to Nashville were just connecting through Nashville? Cincinnati to Nashville is only a four hour drive. Most people are not going to pay for a flight when it would only take four hours to drive unless work is paying. Even then, many people would chose to rent a car and drive or expense the mileage. This seems like a sensible move by Delta.

 

Nashville 45 mins by plane, with most business travelers like myself i am through TSA in under ten minutes. I am maybe hour and half to two hours traveling compared to four or five to Nashville by car. I could easily fly down in morning and back. Time is valuable and driving down 65 between Louisville and Nashville is a nightmare. Plus who is connecting in Nashville? Nashville isnt a hub or a focus city. It would be the other way around and I have seen a number of folks on the evening flight going to Cincinnati to catch a connection. If the planes load percentages were low I could understand, but they were in the high eighties low nineties. Hell earlier in the year they upgraded the aircraft to a CRJ900 from CRJ700

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When is the Nashville flight terminated?


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CVG soars past another record

 

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Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport has broken another all-time passenger record.

 

The airport served a total of 1.2 million local passengers in May, June, and July, which surpassed its previous record in those months of 1 million set in 2000.

 

“New destinations, additional frequencies and lower airfares are all contributing to the overall growth we’re seeing,” CVG CEO Candace McGraw said in a statement. “We thank the community for embracing the positive change and choosing to fly with CVG. Our mission is to make travel through CVG an unforgettably positive experience for all of our passengers.”

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/08/29/cvg-soars-past-another-record.html


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Southwest Airlines adds new CVG destination

 

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Southwest Airlines is adding a new seasonal destination to its lineup at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport.

 

The low-cost carrier will begin seasonal nonstop service from CVG to Orlando, Fla., on Saturdays in March 2019.

 

The flights will join Southwest’s seasonal nonstop service to Phoenix that will also return on Saturdays in March. Southwest already provides year-round daily nonstop service to Baltimore/Washington, D.C., Chicago and Denver.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/08/30/southwest-airlines-adds-new-cvg-destination.html


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CVG adding 12 new retailers

 

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The Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport (CVG) is adding 12 new retailers and overhauling four other shops in the next two years.

 

...blah blah blah Brownfield, let's get to the point...

 

*Over-the-Rhine Market, offering basic necessities and grab-and-go food.

 

*Seven Hills Essentials, offering food, gifts and other items from local vendors, as well as sports merchandise featuring Cincinnati's professional teams.

 

*SemiSweet, selling confections from brands like Godiva, Ghirardelli and Lindt.

 

*Books, Barrels and Bridges, with a selection of healthy and popular snacks, books and magazines, as well as merchandise from the Kentucky Bourbon Trail.

 

*Gaslight Gifts, offering travel basics and gourmet gifts from brands like Montgomery Inn, Rivertown Inkery and Kentucky Souvenier.

 

*Queen City Exposition, selling gourmet local goof, gifts and souvenir items from brands like Honey Sweetie Acres and Cityscape Tiles.

 

*No Boundaries, selling outdoor apparel from brands like Columbia Sportswear Co., Mountain Hardwear and Aventura.

 

*The Scoreboard, selling officially licensed sports apparel and accessories.

 

*TripAdvisor, selling travel essentials, snacks, newspapers and magazines.

 

*Brighton, selling hand-crafted jewelry.

 

*Spanx, selling men's and women's apparel.

 

*Today, selling technology, entertainment, news and travel essentials.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/09/11/cvg-adding-12-new-retailers.html


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CVG soars past another record

 

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Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport has broken another all-time passenger record.

 

The airport served a total of 1.2 million local passengers in May, June, and July, which surpassed its previous record in those months of 1 million set in 2000.

 

“New destinations, additional frequencies and lower airfares are all contributing to the overall growth we’re seeing,” CVG CEO Candace McGraw said in a statement. “We thank the community for embracing the positive change and choosing to fly with CVG. Our mission is to make travel through CVG an unforgettably positive experience for all of our passengers.”

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/08/29/cvg-soars-past-another-record.html

Impressive considering how much traffic used to go out of the "C" terminal which does not exist anymore.

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Now if only they could update the food offerings, nothing like eating at the last Max & Erma's left...

The Moerlein taproom they're opening in concourse A looks really cool.  If their food is half as good as the lager house that will be a good spot to go.  Concourse A has really seen improvements in it's food options the last couple of years with passengers increasing.  Concourse B could certainly use some newer and better options though. 

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CVG wants more people to book cheap flights to Chicago

 

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Flights to Chicago from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport are as cheap as they have been in years, and airport officials want to persuade Cincinnatians, particularly business travelers, to use them more.

 

The airport plans to embark on a marketing campaign to highlight the fares, which on average were $103 each way in the first quarter of 2018 compared with $242 each way in the first quarter of 2016.

 

Between Southwest, Delta, American and United airlines, CVG has 23 flights per day to the Windy City on peak days.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/09/18/cvg-wants-more-people-to-book-cheap-flights-to.html


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CVG rides wave of airport customer satisfaction across North America

 

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Overall passenger satisfaction with North American airports is at a record high – and travelers at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport agree, according to a new report.

 

The J.D. Power 2018 North America Airport Satisfaction Study, released today, showed across-the-board improvements in five of six categories – check-in; food, beverage and retail; accessibility; terminal facilities, and baggage claim. That helped drive overall passenger satisfaction to an all-time high of 761 (on a 1,000-point scale), which was 12 points higher than last year’s previous record of 749.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/09/19/cvg-rides-wave-of-airport-customer-satisfaction.html


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Delta cutting direct flights to three cities from CVG

 

Delta has cut nonstop flights to three additional cities from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/09/28/delta-cutting-direct-flights-to-three-cities-from.html


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Will Wow Air continue to fly from CVG?

 

Wow Airlines, the Iceland-based carrier that began service at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport this year, will pause its service after its last flight to Iceland on Oct. 27, a Wow spokeswoman said.

 

The hiatus is seasonal because of operational, logistic and commercial reasons, Wow spokeswoman Maria Marget Johannsdottir said.

 

“Wow Air is, however, happy with the Cincinnati route last summer and is currently looking at returning in 2019,” she said. “Dates have not been confirmed.”

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/09/28/will-wow-air-continue-to-fly-from-cvg.html


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Delta cutting direct flights to three cities from CVG

 

Can't read the article but I'm curious as to why Delta has been cutting nonstops. First Nashville, now three more? This is after they have increased capacity to a number of destinations over the past 6 months.

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Airline ends CVG service

 

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Wow Air, the low-cost international carrier providing direct service to Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport from Iceland, will cease operations from CVG after its final flight later this month, citing profitability concerns.

 

Cincinnati isn’t alone. Wow won’t return to St. Louis or Cleveland either.

 

“Unfortunately the routes did not achieve the profit targets set,” the airline, which launched service in Cincinnati just five months ago, said in a statement.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/10/16/airline-ends-cvg-service.html


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That is a bit of a bummer. Given that CVG still has a direct flight to Paris, I imagine most of the European travel opted for that over the Wow service. I'd imagine the majority of the CVG-Paris fliers are doing it for business, so people are less likely to look for discount service, and don't want to deal with the added time of stopping and connecting in Iceland. It would be really great if we could get service back to London, too, but I don't know what the odds are of that happening.

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New data: CVG second-cheapest airport to fly from in Midwest

 

The average fares at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport dropped again in the second quarter of 2018, making it the second-cheapest airport to fly from in the Midwest behind Chicago’s Midway Airport.

 

Among the top 100 airports in the country by passenger count, CVG was the 21st-cheapest, with an average fare of $313.75. In the same period in 2017, CVG had a $342 average fare.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/10/16/new-data-cvg-second-cheapest-airport-to-fly-from.html

 

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1 hour ago, edale said:

That is a bit of a bummer. Given that CVG still has a direct flight to Paris, I imagine most of the European travel opted for that over the Wow service. I'd imagine the majority of the CVG-Paris fliers are doing it for business, so people are less likely to look for discount service, and don't want to deal with the added time of stopping and connecting in Iceland. It would be really great if we could get service back to London, too, but I don't know what the odds are of that happening.

If CVG could get Norwegian to start service, that would be a major win. Norwegian has a strong low cost, long haul business model whereas WOW Air is basically a purple transatlantic Ryanair. 

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Most people probably won't take that Paris direct flight unless they need to go to Paris and are going on their company's dime. It's usually a lot more expensive.

 

It's often a lot cheaper to connect in DC, NYC, Boston, or Philly and then get a flight to Europe.

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Yeah but a direct flight to an overseas destination is definitely worth the difference in price.  I were to fly to Paris from Cincinnati, I'd take the direct over a connection even if it costs $500 more.  There's just too much crap that happens out there. 

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Just now, jmecklenborg said:

Yeah but a direct flight to an overseas destination is definitely worth the difference in price.  I were to fly to Paris from Cincinnati, I'd take the direct over a connection even if it costs $500 more.  There's just too much crap that happens out there. 

 

Now imagine you're travelling with a wife and two kids. Suddenly that's $2000 extra to get direct when you could fly to NYC first. That could pay for your lodging over the whole trip and plenty of meals.

 

Personally, I would take the connection to save even a couple hundred dollars flying solo. But obviously everyone is different.

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A former coworker of mine booked a show for his band in Iceland via WOW and a few people from Cincinnati went.  He met a girl from Australia there and now they are dating.  So that cheap flight to Iceland is now costing him a ton since they're flying back and forth from Australia. 

 

As for "real" overseas trips, I don't understand the point of going for less than a week, and the cost of a flight reduces as a percentage of the overall trip cost the longer said trip gets.  Who wants to deal with airport monkey business while jet lagged at the end of a 2-week overseas trip and have to show up beat to work the next morning? 

 

 

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I always got the impression that WOW was funded by the Icelandic government as a pro-tourism effort. When you book a flight on WOW, they strongly encourage you to add a layover in Iceland.

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Just now, taestell said:

I always got the impression that WOW was funded by the Icelandic government as a pro-tourism effort. When you book a flight on WOW, they strongly encourage you to add a layover in Iceland.

 

Agree. I wouldn't be surprised if they replace the three cities they dropped this fall with three new cities in the spring. They already got everyone in Cincinnati who was willing to spend a week in Iceland to do so, now it's on to Des Moines or some place where the Iceland tourist well isn't dried up.

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17 hours ago, thomasbw said:

I would have to assume that WOW pulled out due largely to their business model. I have no earthly idea how these budget airlines turn a profit. 

The tourism angle mentioned by @taestell and @Ram23 makes sense for WOW. As for other budget airlines, I recently went to San Diego for a wedding flying Frontier for $200 r/t. The seats are smaller and don't recline, and the aisles are smaller too, so they pack in more seats. And both flights (direct) were completely full. I think the business model relies on packing a ton of people on every plane, lured by the low fares. Then of course they nickel and dime for everything, from carry-on bags to coffee and pretzels. I was wondering about the flight crew's experience, unions, etc., but I don't have any answers about that stuff.

 

Regarding San Diego, I have to shout out @surfohio for being instrumental in crafting a fantastic itinerary! ??‍♂️

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Which markets are seeing big fare cuts from CVG?

 

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Nearly 80 percent of Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport’s top 100 destinations saw their average fares decline between the second quarter of 2017 and the same period in 2018, according to data released by the airport. 

 

That coincides with the start of service by Southwest Airlines in June 2017.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/10/24/which-markets-are-seeing-big-fare-cuts-from-cvg.html

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Just came back from business in New Orleans and flew Southwest. Both Monday morning flights last week to MDW were completely full and the return flight from BWI to CVG was almost full yesterday afternoon.

 

I know that Southwest has been planning on expanding the route network from CVG even more than to DEN and PHX, but these load factors have to be encouraging.

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Yeah now if the Airport would get a move on and fix the awful parking situation. It really shows a lack of planning and leadership when the Long Term parking is constantly full, but they still don't have the other parking lot ready yet at the existing employee parking lot. Passengers are coming in droves to CVG again but the airport seems to not be ready to receive them...

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Landed late Sunday night at CVG from a trip and had to wait for the Uber in the parking lot behind the baggage claim (Gate 10/TANK bus stop). The Uber driver said they moved the pick-up location to there a month ago. It's a bit odd, but it works better because the ride-share vehicles no longer have to wait in the Cell Phone Lot.


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14 hours ago, JYP said:

Landed late Sunday night at CVG from a trip and had to wait for the Uber in the parking lot behind the baggage claim (Gate 10/TANK bus stop). The Uber driver said they moved the pick-up location to there a month ago. It's a bit odd, but it works better because the ride-share vehicles no longer have to wait in the Cell Phone Lot.

Is that the same location where they have a pet relieving area directly next to the bus shelter?


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Icelandair Buys WOW To Strengthen International Presence

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/05/icelandair-buys-wow-to-strengthen-international-presence.html

 

This could be part of the reason why WOW announced that it would not be returning to CVG. It will be interesting to see what happens under the control of ICE. Combined, they represent 3.8% of the transatlantic market.

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