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^^CVG has felt hopping the last few times I've flown this year.  You can tell it's really picked up traffic-wise.  Not quite the hub days, but in terms of local origination and arrivals, it's busy as it's ever been.

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Last time I flew out of CVG I was shocked by how full the ValuPark lot was. It felt like a ghost town a few years ago.

 

What will this new, even cheaper parking lot be called? SuperValuPark?

 

I flew out of CVG last weekend and parked in the ValuPark lot.  I also think this was the most full I have ever seen the lot, as I was directed to park in the very last row of the parking lot.  All of the rows in the lot appeared to be at least 90% full. 

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New data: CVG third-cheapest airport to fly from in the Midwest

 

The average fares at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport dropped again in the first quarter of 2018, making it the third-cheapest airport to fly from in the Midwest behind only Cleveland-Hopkins International Airport and Chicago’s Midway Airport.

 

Among the top 100 airports in the country, CVG was the 34th-cheapest, with an average fare of $327.55. In the same period in 2017, CVG had a $386 average fare and was the 35th-most expensive.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/07/17/new-data-cvg-third-cheapest-airport-to-fly-from-in.html


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Last time I flew out of CVG I was shocked by how full the ValuPark lot was. It felt like a ghost town a few years ago.

 

What will this new, even cheaper parking lot be called? SuperValuPark?

 

I flew out of CVG last weekend and parked in the ValuPark lot.  I also think this was the most full I have ever seen the lot, as I was directed to park in the very last row of the parking lot.  All of the rows in the lot appeared to be at least 90% full. 

 

I flew out this morning and CVG was the most crowded I’ve ever seen it. ValuPark was full and they were turning cars away and directing them to the garage. The SkyPriority line to check bags was about a 15 minute wait (the normal line was at least twice as long) and the security line was about 20 minutes long. Maybe not bad by big city airport standards, but it’s a huge change from a few years ago when CVG felt like a ghost town.

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Southwest to launch new CVG flight

By Erin Caproni  – Digital Producer, Cincinnati Business Courier

 

 

Southwest Airlines will launch a new flight from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport this week.

 

The low-cost carrier will begin its nonstop flight from CVG to Denver on Tuesday with the first departure set for 8:10 p.m.

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/08/06/southwest-to-launch-new-cvg-flight.html

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Why this airline industry researcher thinks CVG will get a London flight

 

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With London’s Heathrow Airport getting a third runway in the next decade, Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport could be poised to get a direct flight to a major European gateway, according to a new analysis by OAG, a flight data and statistics company.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/08/07/why-this-airline-industry-researcher-thinks-cvg.html


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I don't know the extent to which this is happening elsewhere, but I've noticed an uptick in travel journalism about Cincinnati lately. Obviously in the NY Times, but also from international publications. Some, but I'm not sure what proportion, is due to WOW Air providing cheap service from Europe. Europeans (and other int'l travelers) don't have the same prejudices against flyover country as Americans, so it would make sense that word-of-mouth praise would keep this trend up moving forward.

 

Recently, I was in Cleveland and ran into a group of Icelanders. CLE has seen the arrival of both WOW and Iceland Air. So this definitely isn't just a Cincinnati thing, and these flights definitely do influence the tourism market. Perhaps a new flight from London could elevate this trend and help sustain its growth.

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I don't know the extent to which this is happening elsewhere, but I've noticed an uptick in travel journalism about Cincinnati lately. Obviously in the NY Times, but also from international publications. Some, but I'm not sure what proportion, is due to WOW Air providing cheap service from Europe. Europeans (and other int'l travelers) don't have the same prejudices against flyover country as Americans, so it would make sense that word-of-mouth praise would keep this trend up moving forward.

 

Recently, I was in Cleveland and ran into a group of Icelanders. CLE has seen the arrival of both WOW and Iceland Air. So this definitely isn't just a Cincinnati thing, and these flights definitely do influence the tourism market. Perhaps a new flight from London could elevate this trend and help sustain its growth.

 

Source Cincinnati has been driving much of the coverage. They reach out to travel writers to bring them to town, and provide them with hotels, dinners, and attractions throughout the city. Sometimes it is paired with a specific event like the WOW Air launch, Oktoberfest, or Bockfest and sometimes it is just more general. It's very hands on.

 

https://www.cincypeople.com/features/2017/7/5/source-cincinnati-tells-the-story-of-our-region

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So within the hospitality industry there is big discussion about 21c Hotel now becoming part of Accor. Now many of you would say what does this have to do with international travel? Well alot actually, it puts a large European based hotel chain in our city. It gives European travelers more enticing reason to connect in Cincinnati because its part of Accor than say some of our American based hotel chains. I think we are just starting to see small crumbs right now, but if we as a city keep going in the right direction, i think we could become an American tourist destination that is affordable compared to other cities in the US. Its similar to how Americans like myself enjoy Krakow, Budapest, and Prague because they are nice and cheap compared to Paris, London, or Amsterdam.

 

I dont think we are going to get a London flight very quickly though. Pittsburgh is giving 1.5 million a year for two years to British Airways to have the flight to London. Cincinnati would probably need to do very similar. However it I was CVG i would try Virgin Atlantic over British Airways. Virgin Atlantic is part of Delta and Sky Team and would have a better chance of success with the heavy Sky miles community in the tri-state over British Airways which is One World and does not have a huge business presence in CVG

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So within the hospitality industry there is big discussion about 21c Hotel now becoming part of Accor. Now many of you would say what does this have to do with international travel? Well alot actually, it puts a large European based hotel chain in our city. It gives European travelers more enticing reason to connect in Cincinnati because its part of Accor than say some of our American based hotel chains. I think we are just starting to see small crumbs right now, but if we as a city keep going in the right direction, i think we could become an American tourist destination that is affordable compared to other cities in the US. Its similar to how Americans like myself enjoy Krakow, Budapest, and Prague because they are nice and cheap compared to Paris, London, or Amsterdam.

 

I dont think we are going to get a London flight very quickly though. Pittsburgh is giving 1.5 million a year for two years to British Airways to have the flight to London. Cincinnati would probably need to do very similar. However it I was CVG i would try Virgin Atlantic over British Airways. Virgin Atlantic is part of Delta and Sky Team and would have a better chance of success with the heavy Sky miles community in the tri-state over British Airways which is One World and does not have a huge business presence in CVG

 

Any service to/from London will likely be on Virgin due to Skyteam. Virgin unlike Delta is more concerned about London originating passengers than Cincinnati ones which drives down chances significantly. For this reason alone I don’t see CVG-London for quite some time unless the airport authority wants to pay for it like PIT.

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I wonder if the introduction of Boeing's NMA (797) in the next 5 years or so will help CVG's international presence. With a passenger capacity of 200-250 passengers and a range of 4500-6000nm, it would be a perfect aircraft to provide profitable, medium demand transatlantic legs from CVG.

 

It would open up the possibility of long and thin city pairings like Cincinnati to Stockholm, Lisbon, Rome, etc.

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I think the expansion of Intl flights from CVG will likely follow the old footprint of London, Paris, Frankfurt and Rome. They may do an Asia flight if things grow big enough. Cant see Stokholm or Lisbon, just not enough local business going that way.

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^ Agreed.

 

The era of hub and spoke consolidation with concentrated international gateways is ending. One need only look at the Airbus A380. No American carriers operate it and only the most hub-and-spoke focused airlines (Emirates, Ethiad, BA, Lufthansa, Qantas, etc.) operate a large number of them.

 

The growth is in new city pairs which take advantage of hyper efficient midsize airliners like the 787 and the A330neo. That would open up CVG to other midsize cities because they are cheap to fly into and can now be supported with lower demand.

 

Considering the cost of landing slots, CVG to Heathrow, Frankfurt, and Paris would require crazy high load factors in order to remain profitable.

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CVG road construction begins

By Erin Caproni  – Digital Producer, Cincinnati Business Courier

 

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The Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport will begin construction this week on a new entrance road expected to improve access to the airport.

 

The construction, which is expected to continue through the third quarter of 2019, will create a new entrance to the main terminal and connection to the consolidated rental car facility that’s scheduled to open in late 2021. Construction on that project is expected to begin in late 2019.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/08/14/cvg-road-construction-begins.html

 

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CVG lands $7M federal grant

 

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Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport has received federal funding to make improvements to its infrastructure.

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The Airport Improvement Program funding will be used for three major projects:

 

$3.6 million for the construction and connection of an additional deice pad

$2.5 million for phase two of the Concourse A ramp rehabilitation program

$987,215 for a new baggage carousel in Concourse A.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/08/27/cvg-lands-7m-federal-grant.html


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Well some bad news to report out of the airport. Delta is quietly getting rid of direct service to Nashville. I am really surprised that this route is being dropped. I used it often for work and the CRJ900 was always full. Between this route and Memphis my work travel has now doubled in time.

 

Another note WOW has decided to go seasonal in Cincinnati instead of going year round. Shame CLE get IcelandAir year round and we are subject to seasonal service with WOW.

 

Still waiting to see what new food service offerings will come to CVG. Hell CLE just landed a shake shack in there terminal...

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Well some bad news to report out of the airport. Delta is quietly getting rid of direct service to Nashville. I am really surprised that this route is being dropped. I used it often for work and the CRJ900 was always full. Between this route and Memphis my work travel has now doubled in time.

 

Another note WOW has decided to go seasonal in Cincinnati instead of going year round. Shame CLE get IcelandAir year round and we are subject to seasonal service with WOW.

 

Still waiting to see what new food service offerings will come to CVG. Hell CLE just landed a shake shack in there terminal...

 

How many of those people flying from Cincinnati to Nashville were just connecting through Nashville? Cincinnati to Nashville is only a four hour drive. Most people are not going to pay for a flight when it would only take four hours to drive unless work is paying. Even then, many people would chose to rent a car and drive or expense the mileage. This seems like a sensible move by Delta.

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Well some bad news to report out of the airport. Delta is quietly getting rid of direct service to Nashville. I am really surprised that this route is being dropped. I used it often for work and the CRJ900 was always full. Between this route and Memphis my work travel has now doubled in time.

 

Another note WOW has decided to go seasonal in Cincinnati instead of going year round. Shame CLE get IcelandAir year round and we are subject to seasonal service with WOW.

 

Still waiting to see what new food service offerings will come to CVG. Hell CLE just landed a shake shack in there terminal...

 

How many of those people flying from Cincinnati to Nashville were just connecting through Nashville? Cincinnati to Nashville is only a four hour drive. Most people are not going to pay for a flight when it would only take four hours to drive unless work is paying. Even then, many people would chose to rent a car and drive or expense the mileage. This seems like a sensible move by Delta.

 

Nashville 45 mins by plane, with most business travelers like myself i am through TSA in under ten minutes. I am maybe hour and half to two hours traveling compared to four or five to Nashville by car. I could easily fly down in morning and back. Time is valuable and driving down 65 between Louisville and Nashville is a nightmare. Plus who is connecting in Nashville? Nashville isnt a hub or a focus city. It would be the other way around and I have seen a number of folks on the evening flight going to Cincinnati to catch a connection. If the planes load percentages were low I could understand, but they were in the high eighties low nineties. Hell earlier in the year they upgraded the aircraft to a CRJ900 from CRJ700

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When is the Nashville flight terminated?


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When is the Nashville flight terminated?

 

September 28, 2018 last scheduled flights. Will not be returning as a seasonal, will be discontinued instead.

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CVG soars past another record

 

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Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport has broken another all-time passenger record.

 

The airport served a total of 1.2 million local passengers in May, June, and July, which surpassed its previous record in those months of 1 million set in 2000.

 

“New destinations, additional frequencies and lower airfares are all contributing to the overall growth we’re seeing,” CVG CEO Candace McGraw said in a statement. “We thank the community for embracing the positive change and choosing to fly with CVG. Our mission is to make travel through CVG an unforgettably positive experience for all of our passengers.”

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/08/29/cvg-soars-past-another-record.html


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Southwest Airlines adds new CVG destination

 

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Southwest Airlines is adding a new seasonal destination to its lineup at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport.

 

The low-cost carrier will begin seasonal nonstop service from CVG to Orlando, Fla., on Saturdays in March 2019.

 

The flights will join Southwest’s seasonal nonstop service to Phoenix that will also return on Saturdays in March. Southwest already provides year-round daily nonstop service to Baltimore/Washington, D.C., Chicago and Denver.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/08/30/southwest-airlines-adds-new-cvg-destination.html


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CVG adding 12 new retailers

 

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The Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport (CVG) is adding 12 new retailers and overhauling four other shops in the next two years.

 

...blah blah blah Brownfield, let's get to the point...

 

*Over-the-Rhine Market, offering basic necessities and grab-and-go food.

 

*Seven Hills Essentials, offering food, gifts and other items from local vendors, as well as sports merchandise featuring Cincinnati's professional teams.

 

*SemiSweet, selling confections from brands like Godiva, Ghirardelli and Lindt.

 

*Books, Barrels and Bridges, with a selection of healthy and popular snacks, books and magazines, as well as merchandise from the Kentucky Bourbon Trail.

 

*Gaslight Gifts, offering travel basics and gourmet gifts from brands like Montgomery Inn, Rivertown Inkery and Kentucky Souvenier.

 

*Queen City Exposition, selling gourmet local goof, gifts and souvenir items from brands like Honey Sweetie Acres and Cityscape Tiles.

 

*No Boundaries, selling outdoor apparel from brands like Columbia Sportswear Co., Mountain Hardwear and Aventura.

 

*The Scoreboard, selling officially licensed sports apparel and accessories.

 

*TripAdvisor, selling travel essentials, snacks, newspapers and magazines.

 

*Brighton, selling hand-crafted jewelry.

 

*Spanx, selling men's and women's apparel.

 

*Today, selling technology, entertainment, news and travel essentials.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/09/11/cvg-adding-12-new-retailers.html


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Glad to see one of the new places is named after OTR.  The city really doesn't do a good enough job of advertising OTR as a tourist attraction. 

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CVG soars past another record

 

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Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport has broken another all-time passenger record.

 

The airport served a total of 1.2 million local passengers in May, June, and July, which surpassed its previous record in those months of 1 million set in 2000.

 

“New destinations, additional frequencies and lower airfares are all contributing to the overall growth we’re seeing,” CVG CEO Candace McGraw said in a statement. “We thank the community for embracing the positive change and choosing to fly with CVG. Our mission is to make travel through CVG an unforgettably positive experience for all of our passengers.”

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/08/29/cvg-soars-past-another-record.html

Impressive considering how much traffic used to go out of the "C" terminal which does not exist anymore.

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Now if only they could update the food offerings, nothing like eating at the last Max & Erma's left...

The Moerlein taproom they're opening in concourse A looks really cool.  If their food is half as good as the lager house that will be a good spot to go.  Concourse A has really seen improvements in it's food options the last couple of years with passengers increasing.  Concourse B could certainly use some newer and better options though. 

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CVG wants more people to book cheap flights to Chicago

 

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Flights to Chicago from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport are as cheap as they have been in years, and airport officials want to persuade Cincinnatians, particularly business travelers, to use them more.

 

The airport plans to embark on a marketing campaign to highlight the fares, which on average were $103 each way in the first quarter of 2018 compared with $242 each way in the first quarter of 2016.

 

Between Southwest, Delta, American and United airlines, CVG has 23 flights per day to the Windy City on peak days.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/09/18/cvg-wants-more-people-to-book-cheap-flights-to.html


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CVG rides wave of airport customer satisfaction across North America

 

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Overall passenger satisfaction with North American airports is at a record high – and travelers at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport agree, according to a new report.

 

The J.D. Power 2018 North America Airport Satisfaction Study, released today, showed across-the-board improvements in five of six categories – check-in; food, beverage and retail; accessibility; terminal facilities, and baggage claim. That helped drive overall passenger satisfaction to an all-time high of 761 (on a 1,000-point scale), which was 12 points higher than last year’s previous record of 749.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/09/19/cvg-rides-wave-of-airport-customer-satisfaction.html


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Delta cutting direct flights to three cities from CVG

 

Delta has cut nonstop flights to three additional cities from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/09/28/delta-cutting-direct-flights-to-three-cities-from.html


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Will Wow Air continue to fly from CVG?

 

Wow Airlines, the Iceland-based carrier that began service at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport this year, will pause its service after its last flight to Iceland on Oct. 27, a Wow spokeswoman said.

 

The hiatus is seasonal because of operational, logistic and commercial reasons, Wow spokeswoman Maria Marget Johannsdottir said.

 

“Wow Air is, however, happy with the Cincinnati route last summer and is currently looking at returning in 2019,” she said. “Dates have not been confirmed.”

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/09/28/will-wow-air-continue-to-fly-from-cvg.html


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Delta cutting direct flights to three cities from CVG

 

Can't read the article but I'm curious as to why Delta has been cutting nonstops. First Nashville, now three more? This is after they have increased capacity to a number of destinations over the past 6 months.

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Airline ends CVG service

 

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Wow Air, the low-cost international carrier providing direct service to Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport from Iceland, will cease operations from CVG after its final flight later this month, citing profitability concerns.

 

Cincinnati isn’t alone. Wow won’t return to St. Louis or Cleveland either.

 

“Unfortunately the routes did not achieve the profit targets set,” the airline, which launched service in Cincinnati just five months ago, said in a statement.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/10/16/airline-ends-cvg-service.html


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That is a bit of a bummer. Given that CVG still has a direct flight to Paris, I imagine most of the European travel opted for that over the Wow service. I'd imagine the majority of the CVG-Paris fliers are doing it for business, so people are less likely to look for discount service, and don't want to deal with the added time of stopping and connecting in Iceland. It would be really great if we could get service back to London, too, but I don't know what the odds are of that happening.

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I would have to assume that WOW pulled out due largely to their business model. I have no earthly idea how these budget airlines turn a profit. 

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New data: CVG second-cheapest airport to fly from in Midwest

 

The average fares at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport dropped again in the second quarter of 2018, making it the second-cheapest airport to fly from in the Midwest behind Chicago’s Midway Airport.

 

Among the top 100 airports in the country by passenger count, CVG was the 21st-cheapest, with an average fare of $313.75. In the same period in 2017, CVG had a $342 average fare.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/10/16/new-data-cvg-second-cheapest-airport-to-fly-from.html

 

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1 hour ago, edale said:

That is a bit of a bummer. Given that CVG still has a direct flight to Paris, I imagine most of the European travel opted for that over the Wow service. I'd imagine the majority of the CVG-Paris fliers are doing it for business, so people are less likely to look for discount service, and don't want to deal with the added time of stopping and connecting in Iceland. It would be really great if we could get service back to London, too, but I don't know what the odds are of that happening.

If CVG could get Norwegian to start service, that would be a major win. Norwegian has a strong low cost, long haul business model whereas WOW Air is basically a purple transatlantic Ryanair. 

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Most people probably won't take that Paris direct flight unless they need to go to Paris and are going on their company's dime. It's usually a lot more expensive.

 

It's often a lot cheaper to connect in DC, NYC, Boston, or Philly and then get a flight to Europe.

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Yeah but a direct flight to an overseas destination is definitely worth the difference in price.  I were to fly to Paris from Cincinnati, I'd take the direct over a connection even if it costs $500 more.  There's just too much crap that happens out there. 

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Just now, jmecklenborg said:

Yeah but a direct flight to an overseas destination is definitely worth the difference in price.  I were to fly to Paris from Cincinnati, I'd take the direct over a connection even if it costs $500 more.  There's just too much crap that happens out there. 

 

Now imagine you're travelling with a wife and two kids. Suddenly that's $2000 extra to get direct when you could fly to NYC first. That could pay for your lodging over the whole trip and plenty of meals.

 

Personally, I would take the connection to save even a couple hundred dollars flying solo. But obviously everyone is different.

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A former coworker of mine booked a show for his band in Iceland via WOW and a few people from Cincinnati went.  He met a girl from Australia there and now they are dating.  So that cheap flight to Iceland is now costing him a ton since they're flying back and forth from Australia. 

 

As for "real" overseas trips, I don't understand the point of going for less than a week, and the cost of a flight reduces as a percentage of the overall trip cost the longer said trip gets.  Who wants to deal with airport monkey business while jet lagged at the end of a 2-week overseas trip and have to show up beat to work the next morning? 

 

 

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