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^Too far out. North Bend is already close to the I-275 bridge. A Saylor Park Bridge would have most west siders going west to the bridge then backtracking east on the Kentucky side to get to the airport. It also should be close in enough to act as a Brent Spence alternative for interstate traffic coming to/from the south if the BSB is jammed.

 

^^Neeb is a steep 300 ft above the river so that might require an Ohio Side tunnel as well. You would definitely want to intersect with US50 so you wouldn’t want to do just a really tall Bridge from hilltop to hilltop.


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I do feel like the most direct and obvious route would be connecting Neeb Road to Terminal Drive, with a connector road on the Ohio side providing connectivity to US-50, similar to the connector road linking Central Parkway and Hopple Street.

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One of the things that makes this bridge appealing is that US50 functions almost like an interstate highway, so if you wanted to use this new bridge to get to downtown, it would be better not to have a lot of “friction” (like a connector road) before getting onto US50 though.


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^Too far out. North Bend is already close to the I-275 bridge. A Saylor Park Bridge would have most west siders going west to the bridge then backtracking east on the Kentucky side to get to the airport. It also should be close in enough to act as a Brent Spence alternative for interstate traffic coming to/from the south if the BSB is jammed.

 

^^Neeb is a steep 300 ft above the river so that might require an Ohio Side tunnel as well. You would definitely want to intersect with US50 so you wouldnt want to do just a really tall Bridge from hilltop to hilltop.

 

The BSB would have to be extremely jammed for people to consider using any westside bridge as an alternative.  Traffic would have to exit at the Freeman exit at the very latest.  When the extra distance, lower speeds, and stop lights are considered, there's not going to be any time savings.  Widening Anderson Ferry would be very costly as many retaining walls would have to be built and a majority of the homes would have to be demolished.  It also wouldn't matter if people would have to backtrack a few miles because they're going to choose that route over the BSB or I-275 anyway.  Once you get to a certain point in the northern and eastern parts of the westside, traffic is going to take I-75 regardless of where the bridge is built. 

 

Talking about tunnels on one or both sides of the river is pretty silly as well.  That will balloon the cost to a point where politicians are going to say no way and move forward with a new BSB and Eastern Bypass.  I know my post probably sounds harsh, but we need to be realistic.  This bridge needs to be seen as an alternative to a new BSB at a significantly cheaper cost.  Along with turning I-471 into I-71 and extending it to the split, a westside bridge would eliminate the need for a new BSB and Eastern Bypass, respectively.

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The BSB would have to be extremely jammed for people to consider using any westside bridge as an alternative.

 

KY commuters from Florence, Villa Hills, and Crescent Springs would probably use it daily, since the cut in the hill backs up daily. This would also make Ludlow a more attractive river city, since it’s relatively isolated currently.

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With the added jobs and future growth of Amazon at the airport (which just today announced was getting bigger), a new bridge should be taken more seriously. I would vote for a transit only bridge personally. That way the ferry can continue to accommodate cars, but the masses could use public transit to get there.

 

Since this route is shorter, and would avoid the traffic issues of BSB and cut in the hill, it would be competitive or even faster than driving which is also essential to transit's success.

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^Agreed on transit only but that woudl probably never get done here in Cincy, but we could do the bridge with transit, and that would not only help with the Brent Spence, it would also really help out the west side neighborhoods, big time.  Think how easy for them to get on the bridge via car or transit straight shot over to the airport, and with all the new jobs coming, the city and airport could really advertise to come to the west side of Cincy!

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The BSB would have to be extremely jammed for people to consider using any westside bridge as an alternative.

 

KY commuters from Florence, Villa Hills, and Crescent Springs would probably use it daily, since the cut in the hill backs up daily. This would also make Ludlow a more attractive river city, since its relatively isolated currently.

 

It's possible, but these commuters already have the option of using Rt. 8 or Rt. 25 as an alternate route. 

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A new 2-lane bridge would be very cheap.  Possibly under $100 million.  But the approach roads would be very expensive.  A more interesting solution might be a high bridge 200+ feet above the river.  It would completely avoid the difficult grades at either end and might be cheaper than the extensive earthmoving and land acquisition necessary to create good approaches. 

 

This thing in France is 8,000 feet long and cost $400 million Euros:

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So it's pretty conceivable that a similar structure that is only 2-lanes wide and significantly shorter in length could cost $400 million or less in 2018 dollars. 

 

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A new 2-lane bridge would be very cheap.  Possibly under $100 million.  But the approach roads would be very expensive.  A more interesting solution might be a high bridge 200+ feet above the river.  It would completely avoid the difficult grades at either end and might be cheaper than the extensive earthmoving and land acquisition necessary to create good approaches. 

 

This thing in France is 8,000 feet long and cost $400 million Euros:

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So it's pretty conceivable that a similar structure that is only 2-lanes wide and significantly shorter in length could cost $400 million or less in 2018 dollars. 

 

 

I been across this bridge in France and its amazing, the idea is good for the situation in the river valley. However, I would think this would get shot down quickly because of the landing approach with the airport runways. Bad enough planes have hit the side of the hill back in the day...

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A new 2-lane bridge would be very cheap.  Possibly under $100 million.  But the approach roads would be very expensive.  A more interesting solution might be a high bridge 200+ feet above the river.  It would completely avoid the difficult grades at either end and might be cheaper than the extensive earthmoving and land acquisition necessary to create good approaches. 

 

This thing in France is 8,000 feet long and cost $400 million Euros:

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So it's pretty conceivable that a similar structure that is only 2-lanes wide and significantly shorter in length could cost $400 million or less in 2018 dollars. 

 

 

In my mind, this is exactly the type of solution I envisioned. The bridge would connect the tops of the two sides of the river, not the valleys.  For arguments sake, using Anderson Ferry Rd, so much of the westside ( Westwood, WPH, Covedale, chunks of Green Twp, and Delhi) would all have excellent access. These areas are filled with tons of housing that is likely occupied by potential employees for airport area type jobs.

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I been across this bridge in France and its amazing, the idea is good for the situation in the river valley. However, I would think this would get shot down quickly because of the landing approach with the airport runways. Bad enough planes have hit the side of the hill back in the day...

 

I checked an alignment between Anderson Ferry and Mineola would be well outside the flight path of the easternmost north/south runway.  Also, the bridge would not have to be cable-stayed.  It could be an opportunity to do a high arch bridge. 

 

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I been across this bridge in France and its amazing, the idea is good for the situation in the river valley. However, I would think this would get shot down quickly because of the landing approach with the airport runways. Bad enough planes have hit the side of the hill back in the day...

 

I checked an alignment between Anderson Ferry and Mineola would be well outside the flight path of the easternmost north/south runway.  Also, the bridge would not have to be cable-stayed.  It could be an opportunity to do a high arch bridge. 

 

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Boom! Lets start ROW acquisition tomorrow. This would be a home-run for bolstering a HUGE portion of west side Cincinnati. I strongly feel its in the best interest of the city to refocus all WH Viaduct redevelopment money on this project instead.  There are plenty of other ways to currently reach jobs in downtown and uptown for west siders.

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^well, it is the future vs. the past a little bit. The Viaduct runs between two neighborhoods that have emptied out in the 80 plus years since it’s opened, and parallel routes exist. I’m certainly not against rebuilding it, but I am a little surprised it’s going to be as-is and no one’s thought of a way to improve on it or do it differently. The airport, meanwhile, is one of the few sure-fire job creation engines our region has going forward.

 

I mean, could you imagine if people in Oakley had to drive downtown and go over a bridge in order to commute to a job in Blue Ash? Houses in Oakley wouldn’t be in such high demand as they are now.

 

I wonder if including this bridge to better serve Amazon jobs at the airport would have improved our chances of winning Amazon HQ2. We may want to call them up to revise our proposal.


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Realistically, how much traffic would this hypothetical Mineola Pike-Anderson Ferry bridge see on a daily basis? 30-40k vehicles per day?

 

I personally think it's a great idea but I think there would be a hard time getting buy in for a West Side -> airport connector.

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CVG fares, at a new record low, fall far below national average

 

Five years ago, fares at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport were at or near the top of the nationwide rankings among the top 100 U.S. airports in terms of passengers. Now, they are near the bottom and going lower each quarter.

 

In the rankings for the third quarter of 2017, CVG’s fares were the 21st lowest among the top 100 airports with an average fare of $300.65, the lowest recorded since such statistics have been gathered. CVG’s average fare for the same quarter in 2016 was $363. The average fare in the third quarter of 2013 was $548.

 

The nationwide average was $336, which was the lowest inflation-adjusted quarterly fare in 23 years of the Bureau of Transportation Statistics collecting records.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/01/16/cvg-fares-at-a-new-record-low-fall-far-below.html


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Delta expands year-round service from CVG to this West Coast city

 

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Delta Air Lines is expanding service at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport and Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport will be a beneficiary.

 

Delta is taking its summer-only flights to Seattle from CVG and making them year-round, according to Courier sister publication the Atlanta Business Chronicle. Delta is adding service both in Seattle and Boston. 

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/01/16/delta-expands-year-round-service-from-cvg-to-this.html


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Delta will start Austin service back in May and Seattle service starts back in March. Word around the airport is Delta is looking at Skywest flying an E175 during non peak season to Seattle to bring year around service to the Emerald city. Mainline in the summer and connection in the winter.

 

Looks like my source was not completely wrong, great to see it will be mainline service though year around. Aircraft sizing will change during off and on season (757,737-9, 737-8) flight will always be early morning 7am with arrival in SEA at 845am. With Amazon beefing up its cargo service here it just makes sense for this route to be year around again.

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CVG sets new records for passengers, cargo

 

Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport set three new records before 2017 came to a close.

 

In a banner year for CVG that saw it land Amazon,com Inc.’s air services hub and begin Southwest Airlines service, the airport also saw the most local passengers ever in December and the most cargo shipped both in a single year and for the month of December.

 

CVG officials reported that 308,446 people flew from the airport in December, besting a prior record set for the month. Considering the total number of December enplanements – 323,834 – the numbers underscore how much of CVG’s traffic now comes from people whose trips originate from the airport compared with those just connecting through it.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/01/17/cvg-sets-new-records-for-passengers-cargo.html


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American Airlines switching concourses at CVG as part of major ramp upgrades

 

American Airlines will shift its gate operations from Concourse A to Concourse B — Delta's foothold — around April 1. CVG officials are initiating a major ramp rehabilitation; work could take as many as two to three years to complete.

 

It's considered a temporary change for now.

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CVG sets new records for passengers, cargo

 

It's going to be fun watching the Amazon Air Force grow.


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Delta expands CVG service to new city

 

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Delta Air Lines is expanding its destinations at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport with another new city.

 

The airline (NYSE: DAL) will add service to Phoenix from CVG this year to bring its total offerings to 36 total destinations.

 

“We are proud to be Cincinnati’s No. 1 global airline,” said Eric Phillips, senior vice president – Pricing & Revenue Management and Delta’s Cincinnati market executive. “With these additions, customers in Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky will have more choices to go to the top business and leisure destinations that are important to them, and we look forward to continuing this growth.”

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/02/05/delta-expands-cvg-service-to-new-city.html


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Delta expands CVG service to new city

 

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Delta Air Lines is expanding its destinations at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport with another new city.

 

The airline (NYSE: DAL) will add service to Phoenix from CVG this year to bring its total offerings to 36 total destinations.

 

“We are proud to be Cincinnati’s No. 1 global airline,” said Eric Phillips, senior vice president – Pricing & Revenue Management and Delta’s Cincinnati market executive. “With these additions, customers in Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky will have more choices to go to the top business and leisure destinations that are important to them, and we look forward to continuing this growth.”

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/02/05/delta-expands-cvg-service-to-new-city.html

 

Delta flights to Phoenix will be using 737-8 aircraft on the route. Nice to see this route return to Cincinnati via Delta, I question if southwest, allegiant, or frontier will try to compete or just end there flights to Phoenix.

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Btw does everyone like how quietly Delta has moved CVG from 'hub' to 'focus city' terminology? Seems this was presented and decided in the 2017 December Investors packet. Boston was also made a focus city as well. Delta hubs by size ATL, DTW, MSP, LGA, SLC, JFK, LAX, and SEA. Delta focus city by size CVG, BOS, and RDU.

 

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Btw does everyone like how quietly Delta has moved CVG from 'hub' to 'focus city' terminology? Seems this was presented and decided in the 2017 December Investors packet. Boston was also made a focus city as well. Delta hubs by size ATL, DTW, MSP, LGA, SLC, JFK, LAX, and SEA. Delta focus city by size CVG, BOS, and RDU.

 

 

I remember being at Logan back in 2002 and seeing multiple flights per hour to Cincinnati. 

 

 

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Btw does everyone like how quietly Delta has moved CVG from 'hub' to 'focus city' terminology? Seems this was presented and decided in the 2017 December Investors packet. Boston was also made a focus city as well. Delta hubs by size ATL, DTW, MSP, LGA, SLC, JFK, LAX, and SEA. Delta focus city by size CVG, BOS, and RDU.

 

 

I remember being at Logan back in 2002 and seeing multiple flights per hour to Cincinnati. 

 

 

 

There is three daily flights a day to BOS from CVG. Two mainline and a connection flight. Mostly GE, Fidelity, and P&G folks on those flights.

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Southwest Airlines expands CVG service

 

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Southwest Airlines is expanding its service at the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport.

 

The airline will launch flights from CVG to Denver starting Aug. 7.

 

The route will operate year round with flights departing CVG at 8:10 p.m. Monday through Friday, 11 a.m. Saturday and 12:05 p.m. on Sunday. Return flights will depart from Denver at 12:40 p.m. Monday through Friday, 1:50 p.m. Saturday and 12:45 p.m. Sunday.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/02/15/southwest-airlines-expands-cvg-service.html


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^ That makes what, 8 daily nonstops to DEN from CVG? That's great news!

 

I would suspect Allegiant to drop Denver and depending on the slug fest with Delta, United and Frontier to see one of them down size aircraft or reduce flight numbers. Southwest, Frontier, and United have the appeal of connection Hub. Delta has the appeal of all the skymiles members base in town.

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Where are customers flying on CVG's newest international carrier?

 

Wow Air's strongest outbound markets from CVG are:

Iceland: 47 percent

Dublin: 12 percent

London: 12 percent

Paris: 10 percent

Amsterdam: 8 percent.

 

WOW's strongest inbound markets to CVG are:

Iceland: 22 percent

London: 18 percent

Paris: 16 percent

Dublin: 9 percent

Berlin: 8 percent

Frankfurt: 5 percent.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/02/21/where-are-customers-flying-on-cvgs-newest.html

 

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Delta adds more capacity at CVG to 13 destinations on Saturdays

 

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Delta Air Lines is adding more flights to destinations it serves at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport on Saturdays.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/02/22/delta-adds-more-capacity-at-cvg-to-13-destinations.html


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Low-cost international airline adds another CVG departure before its first flight

 

Wow Air, the latest ultra-low-cost airline to announce service from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport, is adding an additional flight before it even celebrates its first takeoff.

 

The Iceland-based carrier is increasing its service from four days a week to five days a week during the summer travel season with a new departure at 12:50 a.m. on Wednesdays available June 4 to Sept. 17.

 

“The reception from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky travelers for our flight service has been phenomenal since we announced the route last summer. Because of the strong demand, we have decided to increase our service from four to five days during the summer. We look forward to bringing affordable international travel to CVG,” Wow Air CEO and founder Skúli Mogensen said in a statement.

 

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Why Southwest picked Denver as its next nonstop flight from CVG

 

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Earlier this month, Southwest Airlines announced it was adding another year-round nonstop destination to the two it already serves from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/02/23/why-southwest-picked-denver-as-its-next-nonstop.html


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Why Southwest picked Denver as its next nonstop flight from CVG

 

Earlier this month, Southwest Airlines announced it was adding another year-round nonstop destination to the two it already serves from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/02/23/why-southwest-picked-denver-as-its-next-nonstop.html

 

What was the reason? (For us non-subs)

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Southwest launches seasonal CVG flight today

 

Southwest Airlines will launch a seasonal flight from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport today.

 

The low-cost airline will begin service from CVG to Phoenix this afternoon with a baseball-themed ribbon cutting featuring a visit from Cincinnati Reds mascots Mr. Redlegs and Gapper.

 

The seasonal flight to Sky Harbor Airport will continue through April 7 in conjunction with Reds Spring Training in Goodyear, Ariz.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/03/08/southwest-launches-seasonal-cvg-flight-today.html

 

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Southwest is No. 1 in the markets it serves from CVG

 

Southwest Airlines ranks first in the number of passengers it carries between Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport and the first two markets it serves from CVG – Chicago and the Washington, D.C.-Baltimore area – according to federal transportation data.

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/03/08/southwest-is-no-1-in-the-markets-it-serves-from.html


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CVG’s newest low-cost flight launches today

 

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The newest flight from an ultra-low-cost carrier at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport will launch today.

 

Allegiant Airlines will begin service from CVG to Charleston, S.C., with fares as low as $73 one way.

 

The seasonal flight will be offered on Sundays and Thursdays and marks the airport’s only direct access to Charleston.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/04/05/cvg-s-newest-low-cost-flight-launches-today.html


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Frontier adds new CVG flights today

 

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Frontier Airlines will continue an expansion of its offerings at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky Airport today after launching three new flights over the weekend.

 

Frontier flights to San Antonio, Texas and Raleigh-Durham, N.C., from CVG will take off for the first time today. The new destinations will be added to nonstop flights to San Jose, Calif.; Austin, Texas and Jacksonville, Fla., that the low-cost carrier launched on Sunday.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/04/09/frontier-adds-new-cvg-flights-today.html


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CVG launches new low-cost Florida flight today

 

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A new low-cost flight from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport will take off today.

 

Allegiant’s first flight to Sarasota will depart from CVG at 1:16 p.m. The year-round flight joins Allegiant’s service to Charleston, S.C. that launched earlier this month.

 

“Cincinnati travelers have truly embraced Allegiant, and we’re excited to give them more nonstop, ultra-low-cost travel options by adding our two newest destinations,” Lukas Johnson, Allegiant’s senior vice president of commercial, said when the two flights were announced in January.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/04/13/cvg-launches-new-low-cost-florida-flight-today.html


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CVG's fare ranking ticks upward

 

Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport’s ranking among the nation’s top 100 airports when it came to fares ticked upward in the fourth quarter of 2017.

 

CVG was the 28th-cheapest airport in the country to fly from with an average fare of $324.44. In the third quarter, the airport was the 21st-lowest and set a modern-day low fare record at about $301.

 

But compared to the same quarter in 2016, the average fare was down by $43. Nationwide, the average fare was $347 in the fourth quarter of 2017, so CVG was again below that figure.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/04/17/cvgs-fare-ranking-ticks-upward.html


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Looks like CVG's cargo tonnage is around 1.2 million tons annually:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/04/23/cvg-continues-torrid-growth-pace.html

 

That would put it even with JFK at about the 22nd busiest in the world and about #7 in the United States:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_airports_by_cargo_traffic

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Looks like for the green bars, each tick on the x-axis is 2%. For red bars, it's 2 million passengers. It's kind of weird, but with the numbers it's comprehensible.

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