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Arizona lawmakers to file 4 birthright bills

 

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Arizona lawmakers on Thursday plan to file four bills for consideration that they hope will change how the U.S. recognizes children of illegal immigrants. By 10 a.m., opposition groups had already gathered at the state Capitol waving signs and speaking out against the effort. The bills, which have not yet been introduced, would likely establish that an Arizona citizen must be a U.S. citizen. They would define a U.S. citizen as someone who was born in the United States and has at least one parent who is either a U.S. citizen or a naturalized U.S. citizen. Sen. Ron Gould, R-Lake Havasu City, and Rep. John Kavanagh, R-Fountain Hills, will sponsor the bills, which will be identical, in the House and Senate.

 

Senate President Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, who along with Kavanagh led the effort to get Senate Bill 1070 passed last year, has been working on this issue for years. Kansas attorney Kris Kobach, who helped draft SB 1070 and in November was elected Kansas Secretary of State, also helped with this legislation. Unlike with SB 1070, Arizona won't be alone in this effort. Lawmakers from about a dozen states have united under State Legislators for Legal Immigration and are expected to consider identical birthright citizenship legislation in their states this year. However, Arizona seems to be the first state so far.

 

States have oversight over birth certificates and, to an extent, over who can receive state services, but citizenship is a federal issue. Creating different birth certificates, or giving people different levels of access to state services based on information on birth certificates, would open the state to federal lawsuits. Kavanagh, Pearce and the other lawmakers say that's exactly what they want: to force these lawsuits so the federal courts will consider whether the 14th Amendment truly grants citizenship to children born in the U.S. to illegal immigrants.

 

The 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868, states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." Those who favor reform say illegal immigrants aren't "subject to the jurisdiction" of the U.S, so their children can't qualify for birthright citizenship. Opponents call the Arizona effort racist.

 

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http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/azelections/articles/2011/01/27/20110127arizona-birthright-bills-introduced.html

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Citing ‘Brainwashing,’ Arizona Declares a Latino Class Illegal

 

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The class began with a Mayan-inspired chant and a vigorous round of coordinated hand clapping. The classroom walls featured protest signs, including one that said “United Together in La Lucha!” — the struggle. Although open to any student at Tucson High Magnet School, nearly all of those attending Curtis Acosta’s Latino literature class on a recent morning were Mexican-American.

 

For all of that and more, Mr. Acosta’s class and others in the Tucson Unified School District’s Mexican-American program have been declared illegal by the State of Arizona — even while similar programs for black, Asian and American Indian students have been left untouched.

 

“It’s propagandizing and brainwashing that’s going on there,” Tom Horne, Arizona’s newly elected attorney general, said this week as he officially declared the program in violation of a state law that went into effect on Jan. 1.

 

Although Shakespeare’s “Tempest” was supposed to be the topic at hand, Mr. Acosta spent most of a recent class discussing the political storm in which he, his students and the entire district have become enmeshed. Mr. Horne’s name came up more than once, and not in a flattering light.

 

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/08/us/08ethnic.html?_r=3&hp

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Texas immigration bill has big exception

 

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Amid a number of bills filed in Texas that address the issue of illegal immigration, one, proposed by Republican state Rep. Debbie Riddle, stands out. As proposed, House Bill 1202 would create tough state punishments for those who "intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly" hire an unauthorized immigrant. Violators could face up to two years in jail and a fine of up to $10,000. But it is an exception included in the bill that is drawing attention. Those who hire unauthorized immigrants would be in violation of the law -- unless they are hiring a maid, a lawn caretaker or another houseworker.

 

It is a tough immigration bill with a soft side that protects those who hire unauthorized immigrants "for the purpose of obtaining labor or other work to be performed exclusively or primarily at a single-family residence." Texas state Rep. Aaron Pena, a Republican, said the exception is a wise one. "With things as they are today, her bill will see a large segment of the Texas population in prison" if it passes without the exception, he said. "When it comes to household employees or yard workers it is extremely common for Texans to hire people who are likely undocumented workers," Pena said. "It is so common it is overlooked."

 

The bills and other illegal immigration-related bills filed by Riddle and others reflect an increased pressure from constituents for action on the issue, Pena said. Because the federal government isn't doing its job, residents press state officials to act, he said. Leo Berman, a Republican state representative, agreed that there was a stronger voice from Texas voters on the issue. "Absolutely," he said. The Texas legislature convenes only once every two years, so Texas has not passed tough anti-illegal immigration laws like some other states. The result has been that unauthorized immigrants in those states are relocating to Texas, Berman said.

 

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http://edition.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/03/01/texas.immigration.bill/index.html?hpt=T2

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"I don't want them Mexican's takin errrr jerbs!! But they can merrrrr mah lerrrrn and flerf mah pilller!!!"

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I missed this thread when it first started.

 

As for the Texas law ... meh.  It's a somewhat grimly humorous recognition of reality ensconced in that exception, but it's a recognition of reality nonetheless.

 

As for the Arizona law ... you've got to be fracking kidding me.  "Those who favor reform say illegal immigrants aren't 'subject to the jurisdiction' of the U.S, so their children can't qualify for birthright citizenship" under the 14th Amendment.  Do they even realize the implications of that risible statement--the implication that we do *not* have jurisdiction over illegal immigrants?  I'm pretty sure that we recognize the jurisdiction of the U.S. to arrest illegal immigrants, if nothing else.  The "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" provision most likely dealt with the extremely rare occurrence that someone is born on U.S. soil to foreign parents with diplomatic immunity (e.g., if the German ambassador's German wife gives birth at Johns Hopkins, the child isn't an American citizen).

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Clearly an assault on small business.  Why do they wish to force more paperwork and regulation upon hard working Americans trying to create jobs.

 

I'm only being half snarky here.  Kinda falls into the same rationale that gets me behind simplifying taxes and some flavor of universal healthcare among other things.

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Alabama governor signs tough illegal immigration law

 

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Alabama's governor on Thursday signed a tough new illegal immigration crackdown that contains provisions requiring public schools to determine students' immigration status and making it a crime to knowingly give an illegal immigrant a ride. The bill also allows police to arrest anyone suspected of being an illegal immigrant if they're stopped for any other reason. Alabama employers also are now required to use a federal system called E-Verify to determine if new workers are in the country legally.

 

Gov. Robert Bentley said the law is the nation's toughest, and groups including the American Civil Liberties Union and the Montgomery-based Southern Poverty Law Center agree. The groups say they plan to challenge it. The legal director for the Southern Poverty Law Center, Mary Bauer, said Thursday that she expects a lawsuit to be filed before the provisions of law are scheduled to take effect on Sept. 1. "It is clearly unconstitutional. It's mean-spirited, racist and we think a court will enjoin it," Bauer said. Bentley, who campaigned on passing the toughest anti-illegal immigration bill possible, said he believes the measure can withstand legal challenges.

 

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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jXoxshS38zCVlGeBlEOgqVMRKARw?docId=dbf99238223a474f97e4a6b9a211d8aa

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EDIT - The Supreme Court has struck down 3 of the 4 portions of the Arizona law that were challenged (police who lawfully stop and detain can still inquire about immigration status, but that can't be the REASON for the stop nor can there be any requirement that the immigrant carry his/her papers around).  5-3 decision in which Kagan had recused herself.  Kennedy and Roberts joined the liberal block of the court in the majority opinion.  Scalia, Thomas, and Alito would have sided with Arizona.  Roberts is turning out to be something less than a reliable conservative vote.... at least not to the extent of the other 3.

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I wouldn't go so far as to call Roberts an unreliable conservative vote just yet.  Remember that immigration is a coalition-splitting issue for both parties.  Law-and-order Republicans emphasize border security, but the more business-friendly, free-market Republicans have no problems with immigration, including of unskilled labor.  The Wall Street Journal's editorial page is an unabashed cheerleader for open borders, first proposing an open-borders constitutional amendment in 1984.

 

In the Democratic party, organized labor is often a support of border-security enforcement measures, while the more globalist elites and human rights activists tend to be much more hostile toward immigration restrictions.

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^By "reliable conservative vote", I simply meant that he is unlike the other three whose votes, intentionally or not, tend to follow a "WWRD" (what would Rush do) blueprint.  Roberts seems to be more of a wildcard.  If I were to tell you one of the 4 is going to vote to uphold the Healthcare law and forced you to put money on it, Roberts would be the obvious choice, no? 

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Love the civil disobedience! Need more cities to follow suit and join forces....

 

"@bruce_katz: NYC Won’t Aid Feds’ Pursuit of Immigrants: Using city power to "promote immigrant rights and racial justice" http://t.co/ZcjNLBNI9w"

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Can anybody name the last two U.S. Presidents to take executive action on immigration, essentially granting legal status to upwards of 4.5 million illegal immigrants?

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That's kind of a silly thing to ask. The United States only had over 4.5 million illegal immigrants since about 1993. So there are only 3-4 Presidents who even presided over this many illegal immigrants (depending on whether it went over 4.5 million before the end of George H.W. Bush's Presidency).

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Here's a pretty good visual of the illegal immigrant population since 1969. I highly doubt there were over 4.5 million people here illegally at any point before 1969. I also see no big drops in the population that could equate to 4.5 million people being granted citizenship.

 

Though there did seem to be a significant drop between 1980-1983 (907,000 people), between 2000-2001 (550,000 people), and 2008-2009 (850,000 people)

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Can anybody name the last two U.S. Presidents to take executive action on immigration, essentially granting legal status to upwards of 4.5 million illegal immigrants?

 

Hmmm.....Carter (Cuban refugees) and ?

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^Nope

 

Here's a pretty good visual of the illegal immigrant population since 1969. I highly doubt there were over 4.5 million people here illegally at any point before 1969. I also see no big drops in the population that could equate to 4.5 million people being granted citizenship.

 

Though there did seem to be a significant drop between 1980-1983 (907,000 people), between 2000-2001 (550,000 people), and 2008-2009 (850,000 people)

 

You are looking for a single timeframe.  I said to name two presidents, each of whom acted at separate times.  The answer was Reagan and GHW Bush

 

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/1f5e041c11294c318d11779be7d22119/reagan-bush-also-acted-alone-shield-immigrants

 

 

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Actually, my guess is that you'd find plenty of people minded back then, and those same people are larger in number and louder today, particularly given that we're now at the point where the amnesty could reach 12 million or more.

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a related event bis the lorain journal:

 

 

CHIP plans 20th anniversary celebration in Lorain

 

By: Ron Vidika (rvidika@morningjournal.com)

 

Friday, April 10, 2015 - 10:25 a.m.

 

 

The 20th anniversary celebration of the Hispanic Leadership Conference, hosted by the Coalition for Hispanic/Latino Issues and Progress (CHIP), takes place April 24-25.

 

A pre-conference reception begins at 7:30 p.m. April 24 at the Lorain Palace Theater, 617 Broadway, Lorain. At 8 p.m., a movie titled, "Detained in the Desert," will be shown. This event is free and open to the public.

 

The milestone conference runs from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. April 25 in the Spitzer Conference Center at Lorain County Community College, 1005 N. Abbe Road in Elyria.

 

This year's theme is "Abriendo Puertas," or "Opening Doors." The presentation is titled, "Working Today's Vision for a Better Tomorrow" and "Connecting People Who Care with Causes that Matter."

 

Josefina Lopez, author of "Detained in the Desert," the book from which the movie is based, said she wrote it in response to the state Arizona's Bill 1070, titled the "Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act."

 

 

The bill states federal law requires all persons older than 14 living in or entering the U.S. illegally or without legal permission who remain more than a month, to register with the U.S. government and to have registration documents in their possession at all times. Violation is a federal misdemeanor.

 

Mike Ferrer, co-conference director along with his wife, Dina Ferrer, said, "CHIP is an organization that provides information and advocacy for the Hispanic community to keep our community informed."

 

"People from all walks of life are members of CHIPS," Ferrer said.

 

The conference begins with breakfast and registration at 7:30 a.m. From 9 a.m. to 4 p.m., there will be presentations, cultural entertainment, workshops, a free medical corner, health screenings and networking, as well as vendor tables and door prizes.

 

This year's roster of presenters includes: Dr. Celia Williamson, director of the Human Trafficking and Social Justice Institute in Toledo; Dr. Nelson Soto, provost and vice president of Academic Affairs at Union Institute and University; Toinette Parrilla, director of public health for the city of Cleveland; Dr. Raquel Ortiz Rodriguez, author and professor at Boricua College in New York City; Enrique Morones, founder and executive director of Border Angels; Baldemar Velasquez, founder and president of the Farm Labor Organizing Committee (FLOC); Maria Dominquez, visual artist, educator and community muralist; and Lilleana Cavanaugh, executive director of the Ohio Commission on Hispanic/Latino Affairs.

 

For the evening gala, doors open at 6 p.m. at DeLuca's Place in the Park, 6075 Middle Ridge Road in Lorain.

 

Dinner is at 7 p.m. Starting at 7:30 p.m., performers will include comedian Bill Santiago, Jose "Pepe" Rivera, Sonido Tropical and Karen Paz Labra.

 

At 9 p.m., there will be dancing to the music of the Sammy DeLeon Y Su Orchesta and DJ Vic Santana.

 

Tim Carrion currently serves as president of CHIP, whose board is comprised of seven members and three trustees.

 

CHIP has had many accomplishments, Ferrer said,

 

"Our proudest moment was when we brought the issue of human trafficking to the forefront," he said. "A peace worker brought us documents. She said Toledo placed No. 4 among U.S. cities with human trafficking.

 

"I called (Lorain police Chief) Cel Rivera and he made some more inquiries. He came back and said, 'It's a serious problem.'"

 

Soon, legislation was introduced to make human trafficking a federal crime.

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Actually, my guess is that you'd find plenty of people minded back then, and those same people are larger in number and louder today, particularly given that we're now at the point where the amnesty could reach 12 million or more.

 

With the largest group arriving under George W. Bush's watch.  He tried to give them amnesty and was pushed back.

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The US should eliminate the entire customs department, anybody who can put together enough cash to buy an airline ticket should be allowed to enter the country and let the working taxpaying citizens of the country support them as "legal illegals".  Let's not limit this to Mexico because they happen to share a border, the entire world should have the same opportunity.

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The US should eliminate the entire customs department, anybody who can put together enough cash to buy an airline ticket should be allowed to enter the country and let the working taxpaying citizens of the country support them as "legal illegals".  Let's not limit this to Mexico because they happen to share a border, the entire world should have the same opportunity.

 

This comment makes absolutely no sense considering where most undocumented immigrants come from.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/melania-trump-first-lady-deportation-priority-donald-immigration-rules-modelling-work-visa-us-a7597221.html?amp&__twitter_impression=true

 

Melania Trump could have been deported and banned from the US if Donald Trump had been president when she was working as a model in the 1990s, immigration attorneys have said.

 

In 1996, Ms Trump—then Knauss—was paid for modelling work undertaken in the United States while travelling on a visitor—or tourist—visa, violating the terms of entry, according to documents obtained by the Associated Press.

 

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2018/jan/10/julian-castro/julian-castro-daca-recipients-employed-school-mili/

 

Calling out Republicans, Julián Castro of Texas said research shows that nearly every young immigrant at risk of losing federal protection from deportation is employed, in school or serving in the military.

 

According to an October 2017 web post, the former Housing and Urban Development secretary was generally urging the Republican-led Congress to change federal law by offering a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children or those who overstayed their visas.

 

The post on the conservative blog PJ Media says that in a conference call organized by an advocacy group, Castro specified that a "recent analysis" showed that 91 percent of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipients, sometimes called "Dreamers," are employed, in school or serving in the military.

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The United States is "a refuge for all those people in the world who yearn to breathe freely...the boat people of Southeast Asia, of Cuba and Haiti, the victims of drought and famine in Africa...."

--Ronald Reagan, accepting the Republican nomination for president, July 17, 1980.

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The United States is "a refuge for all those people in the world who yearn to breathe freely...the boat people of Southeast Asia, of Cuba and Haiti, the victims of drought and famine in Africa...."

--Ronald Reagan, accepting the Republican nomination for president, July 17, 1980.

I agree with this statement is some moderation. I did not like it when Obama ended wet foot dry foot for Cubans, or when he shut down to border to Haitians who made it to the border. I think Trump should probably give most of the temporary Haitians residency. That is a hell of journey they made.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/01/12/obama-ends-wet-foot-dry-foot-policy-cubans/96505172/

President Obama announced Thursday an end to the 20-year-old "wet foot, dry foot" policy that allowed most Cuban migrants who reach U.S. soil to stay and become legal permanent residents after one year.

 

Haitians Plead With Obama for Last-Minute Reprieve as Deportations Skyrocket

Thousands of South Florida families are living similarly devastating stories today thanks to a little-noticed move by the Obama administration. This past September 22, just weeks before the election, Homeland Security abruptly ramped up deportation of Haitians for the first time since the island's massive 2010 earthquake. No longer can new arrivals stay for up to three years on humanitarian parole — instead, they’re being jailed and fast-tracked for a return to the island.

 

Haitians Denied Entry Into The U.S. May Have To Start New Lives In Mexico

As many as 5,000 Haitians are massed on the U.S.-Mexico border, according to Mexican officials. They were hoping to be allowed into the United States on humanitarian grounds. But late last year, the Obama administration shut the door on the Haitians. And it does not look like that's going to change with President Trump. As NPR's Carrie Kahn reports, many of the Haitians are now resigned to making new lives in Mexico.

https://www.npr.org/2017/02/07/513857908/haitians-denied-entry-into-the-u-s-may-have-to-start-new-lives-in-mexico

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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ice-deports-palestinian-man_us_5a70259de4b05836a255fe36

 

“In a highly irregular rebuke of Congressional authority by ICE, Amer Othman was ripped from his four daughters, his wife, and the country that he has called home for over thirty years,” Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio), who had been fighting his deportation, said in a statement. “Amer was a pillar of the community and brought commerce to a downtown that craved investment. He hired members of our community. He paid taxes. He did everything right. There are violent criminals walking the streets, yet our government wasted our precious resources incarcerating him.”

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