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So Mike Trivisommo, in his never ending 'Kasich is the best thing since sliced bread' meme, was ragging big time on Dan Gilbert yesterday.  Apparently, the Toledo casino is not halting construction and he thinks that is definitive proof that Gilbert is a 'nincompoop'.  I wish you didn't have to wait 3 hours just to hung up on after getting two words in or else I would have gave that a-hole a piece of my mind.  How can you possibly compare a project the size of Toledo's with Gilbert's.  Our 'temporary' casino is going to cost more than their permanent casino.  Put together, phase I and phase II, plus a few side developments, will easily exceed $1 billion.  Isn't Toledo spending a quarter of that, at most?  Regardless, if Kasich doesn't come to his senses, a Toledo like casino is probably exactly what we will end up with.  And the Toledo developers aren't stopping because they can just sit back and let Gilbert fight this fight for them.

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The PD editorial board has put in their two cents:

 

The people have spoken on Ohio casinos: editorial

 

Renovations on the former Higbee Building have ceased, idling some 200 skilled workers. Many more who were about to start doing electrical and mechanical work also won't be on the job because contracts for the new Horseshoe Cleveland casino are on hold.

 

Down in Cincinnati, work on a casino being built from scratch also has been suspended.

 

That means that projects with a combined budget of $1 billion are in limbo in this jobs-hungry state because a governor who says he is devoted to economic development and a legislature controlled by his supposedly pro-business Republican Party have created so much uncertainty that developers reasonably say they must reassess their investment.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2011/05/the_people_have_spoken_on_ohio.html

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I'm starting to think that Kasich is acting as a fall guy. He may not be concerned about his future political appeal since he can always find work in the corporate world or as an appointee.

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I'm not one for conspiracies, but you may be onto something. Obviously Kasich knows he can do a lot better financially in the private sector than public, and he's making a lot of wealthy Ohioans very happy, many of whom truly do not have Ohio's best interests in mind - but rather their own. Think the religious right. Think the oil guys. Think his Wall Street contacts. Think the tea baggers and other fake patriots.

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So...we couldn't spend $7 million a year to have a train connecting our largest cities, but we can pay at least $2.4 million a year so someone can tell us that higher taxes bring in more revenue?

 

This guy's an absolute joke.

 

$17 million was forecast for the 3C trains, but $12 million is closer to the per train-mile rate common in other states. Yet the value-capture revenues from the station-area development at the Riverside station near Dayton was forecast to cover even the $17 million figure.


"Most of us have been conditioned to regard military combat as exciting and glamorous -- an opportunity for men to prove their competence and courage. Since armies are legal, we feel that war is acceptable; in general, nobody feels that that war is criminal or that accepting it is a criminal attitude. In fact, we have been brainwashed. War is neither glamorous nor attractive. It is monstrous. Its very nature is one of tragedy and suffering" --Dalai Lama

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Governor KKKasich (sorry, couldn't resist) was on Triv yesterday, of which I only caught the tail-end. He repeated how Ohio has lost more jobs than any other population except for Michigan and California at least 3 or 4 times; I guess that's his 'thing' now. Kasich also talked about the casinos, that next week they'll send a - sigh - offer to the casino groups for...whatever the hell they want. And then the door will be in the Gilbert's court, according to our moron. And all he wants to do is bring jobs. And yeah, in case you forgot his saying this 30 seconds ago, Ohio lost more jobs than anyone else other than Mich and Cali.

 

Triv was being a huge pu$$y with Kasich, softballing him with kindergarden questions and comments. The governor then left the show and Triv began a rant about some Gilbert-conspiracy with Thistledown, which was boring as hell and and I turned it off. The guy is awfully obnoxious and angry.

 

I will give Kasich credit for one thing: he doesn't bull$hit, and at least that's refreshing. He says what's on his mind, regardless of what popular opinion, or sanity, have to say about it. If only he wanted what's best for Ohio...sigh.

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I didn't hear the interview, but I heard Triv's rant afterwards.  He went on this holier than thou rant about how partisan politics are killing this country and that people need to give Kasich a chance.  Funny thing is that Triv and his sidekick are as partisan as they come, even though they won't admit it.  They try to gloss over everything that Kasich does and put Obama through the ringer on everything he does.  It was the most unforgivable case of the pot calling the kettle black I have heard in a while.

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Most of the people left supporting Kasich are the most partisan. It's silly to infer that people who have given up on Kasich are just being overly partisan when it is probably the most agreed upon, bipartisan issue in Ohio right now to feel electing him was a mistake.

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Maybe he should hire some consultants to study how to get to Taft's level?  How about $1million for each percentage point gained towards that goal?

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Kasich and Scott from Florida tied for worst governor ratings...Scott Walker not far behind.  Factor in Sarah Palin probably running and being a frontrunner.  Add in Cain/Bachmann and the rest - It's almost like the GOP is trying to give Obama the election in 2012

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Kasich and Scott from Florida tied for worst governor ratings...Scott Walker not far behind.  Factor in Sarah Palin probably running and being a frontrunner.  Add in Cain/Bachmann and the rest - It's almost like the GOP is trying to give Obama the election in 2012

 

Is it really?  Is it just that plain & simple to you?  The longer the economy stays in the gutter, the longer our foreign policies get muddled, the longer the Democrats refuse to take action on the debt crisis, the more beatable Obama is, regardless of whom the GOP candidate is.  Palin will never be a front runner - the news media just loves to report on her because she's so polarizing and she frequently makes an ass of herself, makes her much more interesting to put on the air than some ho-hum guy like Rick Santorum....

 

And I don't think Kasich ever thought for a minute that he was going to be a popular guy with his slash & burn approach, so quoting some ratings from a popularity poll among governors doesn't  prove a thing.  Besides, I could probably craft a poll showing he was extremely popular if I chose to only poll older wealthy white folks in rural areas...

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quoting some ratings from a popularity poll among governors doesn't  prove a thing. 

 

Sure it does.  It proves he is very unpopular with his constituents who he was elected to 'represent'

 

Besides, I could probably craft a poll showing he was extremely popular if I chose to only poll older wealthy white folks in rural areas...

 

Agreed! 

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Kasich and Scott from Florida tied for worst governor ratings...Scott Walker not far behind.  Factor in Sarah Palin probably running and being a frontrunner.  Add in Cain/Bachmann and the rest - It's almost like the GOP is trying to give Obama the election in 2012

 

Is it really?  Is it just that plain & simple to you?  The longer the economy stays in the gutter, the longer our foreign policies get muddled, the longer the Democrats refuse to take action on the debt crisis, the more beatable Obama is, regardless of whom the GOP candidate is.  Palin will never be a front runner - the news media just loves to report on her because she's so polarizing and she frequently makes an ass of herself, makes her much more interesting to put on the air than some ho-hum guy like Rick Santorum....

 

And I don't think Kasich ever thought for a minute that he was going to be a popular guy with his slash & burn approach, so quoting some ratings from a popularity poll among governors doesn't  prove a thing.  Besides, I could probably craft a poll showing he was extremely popular if I chose to only poll older wealthy white folks in rural areas...

 

Here's the way I look at it.  Kasich and Scott are in two critical swing states for 2012.  These governors are single handedly turning life long republicans into democratic voters.  For example, Obama was down in Florida in the presidential election poll 41-38 just last month.  Now he is up 44-37.  That swing, I believe, has to do with Scott. 

Now you are absolutely right, so many things can change between now and November, but the damage is gonna be pretty hard to undo in some of these swing states.  We're talking historical approval rating lows for these governors.

 

The dems are playing politics just like the republicans.  The dems have essentially shifted the debate focus from the economy, at least temporarily, to republicans wanting to "slash medicare"(dems words).  At the moment, the republicans are on the defensive.

 

We got a long time before the 2012 elections, but I do think we're are going to see Ohio vote overwhelmingly democrat thanks to Kasich and GOP controlling everything

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^Ohio will never be "overwhelmingly" democrat.  Wait till the vote on SB5 before you make these bold predictions.  All that's being reported now is all the union folks up in arms and them screaming how outraged they are and how the working class families are getting screwed.  What isn't getting reported is all those in the silent majority who can't wait to cast their vote to uphold it and stick it further down the craw of public employee unions.

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What isn't getting reported is all those in the silent majority who can't wait to cast their vote to uphold it and stick it further down the craw of public employee unions.

 

I guess we'll see in November.... because petitioners are having NO problems with getting signatures for the SB5 repeal petition.

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Of course they aren't.  They don't even have to go door knocking, just put a petition at every teachers lounge, firehouse, police station, water department, etc.  Keep in mind, public employees are less than 10% of the population.  SB 5 will be upheld.  Wait till the tv ads come out, it's going to be brutal.

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I think you are underestimating the fact that while only 10% of the population are in public employee unions, other people in Unions will more than likely support their public employee brethren. Additionally, people in public unions have family and friends who are not in unions and support SB5 repeal.

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^And don't forget people like me who are not in a public union and who do not know anybody in a public union and will still vote for its repeal.

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^^^And then there are those who allow their conscience to come into the equation at the voting booth, and take into account considerations beyond their own or their family's financial interest.  Believe it or not, the repeal of SB5 is distinctly against MY personal financial interest.... moreso than most every person in this state.  SB5 has the potential to make me a lot of money given what I do for a living.  I will still vote to repeal it because that is the right thing to do.

 

The polling, BTW, which show overwhelming support for repeal, is hardly limited to union members and their family.  The "stick it in the craw" attitude towards our dedicated civil servants is indeed a distinct minority mostly representated by the die-hard conservatives who would get behind Kasich no matter what direction he wanted to take this state in.  Mostly, as you put it, elderly white rich rural folk.   

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Right.  Thanks for mobilizing some of the least reliable sectors  :laugh:

 

You seem to have missed the point of why this was crammed/jammed/bammed/rammed/whammed down our throats so quickly.  If Kasich & crew did not get the legislation signed by April, then the referendum would have went on the 2012 ballot and the RNC wanted NO part of that.

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Everyone should read this Rolling Stone article on Fox News, the icing on the cake is a few paragraphs about Kasich.......

 

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-roger-ailes-built-the-fox-news-fear-factory-20110525?print=true

 

But the clearest demonstration of how Ailes has seamlessly merged both money and message lies in the election of John Kasich, a longtime Fox News contributor who eked out a two-point victory over Democrat Ted Strickland last November to become governor of Ohio. While technically a Republican, Kasich might better be understood as the first candidate of the Fox News Party. “The question is no longer whether Fox News is an arm of the GOP,” says Burns, the network’s former media critic, “but whether it’s becoming the torso instead.”

 

The host of a weekend show called Heartland, Kasich made 42 appearances as a contributor on Fox after he announced his interest in running, frequently guest-hosting on The O’Reilly Factor. He also appeared 16 times as an active candidate, using the network as a platform to make naked fundraising appeals. Most striking of all, News Corp. itself chipped in $1.26 million to the Republican Governors Association, making it one of the largest single contributors to the club Kasich was seeking to join. Murdoch made no bones about why he made such a generous donation to the GOP cause: It was driven, he said, by “my friendship with John Kasich.” Since becoming governor, Kasich has repealed collective-­bargaining rights for 350,000 state workers and killed a stimulus-­funded project to develop high-speed rail for the state.

 

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Everyone should read this Rolling Stone article on Fox News, the icing on the cake is a few paragraphs about Kasich.......

 

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-roger-ailes-built-the-fox-news-fear-factory-20110525?print=true

 

But the clearest demonstration of how Ailes has seamlessly merged both money and message lies in the election of John Kasich, a longtime Fox News contributor who eked out a two-point victory over Democrat Ted Strickland last November to become governor of Ohio. While technically a Republican, Kasich might better be understood as the first candidate of the Fox News Party. “The question is no longer whether Fox News is an arm of the GOP,” says Burns, the network’s former media critic, “but whether it’s becoming the torso instead.”

 

The host of a weekend show called Heartland, Kasich made 42 appearances as a contributor on Fox after he announced his interest in running, frequently guest-hosting on The O’Reilly Factor. He also appeared 16 times as an active candidate, using the network as a platform to make naked fundraising appeals. Most striking of all, News Corp. itself chipped in $1.26 million to the Republican Governors Association, making it one of the largest single contributors to the club Kasich was seeking to join. Murdoch made no bones about why he made such a generous donation to the GOP cause: It was driven, he said, by “my friendship with John Kasich.” Since becoming governor, Kasich has repealed collective-­bargaining rights for 350,000 state workers and killed a stimulus-­funded project to develop high-speed rail for the state.

 

 

God that was a lengthy read for me but well worth it.  It's very scary how powerful Fox News has become, assuming this article can be trusted.  I wonder what the Governor has to say about this.

 

 

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Rupert Murdoch lost billions of dollars when he sold MySpace last month.

I wanted to post something that would make everybody happy.

 

Thanks for the article, Cincinnati_Kid!

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Rupert Murdoch lost billions of dollars when he sold MySpace last month.

I wanted to post something that would make everybody happy.

 

Thanks for the article, Cincinnati_Kid!

 

I think you may be a little off, as 1) MySpace hasn't sold yet (they're having difficulty finding buyers) and 2) Murdoch only paid $580MM for it in the first place.

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It truly is remarkable how this governor has been able to unite republicans and democrats against him.  Too bad its to the detriment to Ohio

 

Unfortunately, he's gonna rush in all of his agenda between now and 2012.  We're gonna see a lot of crap since he knows the GOP won't have control of the state house and senate for much longer.  One party rule is absolutely disastrous - whether its the GOP or the Dems. 

 

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Rupert Murdoch lost billions of dollars when he sold MySpace last month.

 

I think you may be a little off, as 1) MySpace hasn't sold yet (they're having difficulty finding buyers) and 2) Murdoch only paid $580MM for it in the first place.

 

Maybe he paid someone a couple billion to take that crap off his hands. :)

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WLW-AM-Cincinnati RW radio host Bill Cunningham turns on Kasich.  Cunningham defends the teachers and excoriates the governor for costing the state millions in revenue because of his rash decisions that stopped casino construction.  I am more than surprised.

 

http://www.progressohio.org/blog/2011/06/right-wing-talker-bill-cunningham-threatens-intifada-against-kasich-the-first.html

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Everyone should read this Rolling Stone article on Fox News, the icing on the cake is a few paragraphs about Kasich.......

 

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-roger-ailes-built-the-fox-news-fear-factory-20110525?print=true

 

But the clearest demonstration of how Ailes has seamlessly merged both money and message lies in the election of John Kasich, a longtime Fox News contributor who eked out a two-point victory over Democrat Ted Strickland last November to become governor of Ohio. While technically a Republican, Kasich might better be understood as the first candidate of the Fox News Party. “The question is no longer whether Fox News is an arm of the GOP,” says Burns, the network’s former media critic, “but whether it’s becoming the torso instead.”

 

The host of a weekend show called Heartland, Kasich made 42 appearances as a contributor on Fox after he announced his interest in running, frequently guest-hosting on The O’Reilly Factor. He also appeared 16 times as an active candidate, using the network as a platform to make naked fundraising appeals. Most striking of all, News Corp. itself chipped in $1.26 million to the Republican Governors Association, making it one of the largest single contributors to the club Kasich was seeking to join. Murdoch made no bones about why he made such a generous donation to the GOP cause: It was driven, he said, by “my friendship with John Kasich.” Since becoming governor, Kasich has repealed collective-­bargaining rights for 350,000 state workers and killed a stimulus-­funded project to develop high-speed rail for the state.

 

 

God that was a lengthy read for me but well worth it.  It's very scary how powerful Fox News has become, assuming this article can be trusted.  I wonder what the Governor has to say about this.

 

I don't think Kasich really cares about it. It's an op-ed piece.

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