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  1. I said upthread that I felt that the NFL's popularity has been on a steep decline recently, and was largely told I was wrong and that everything is fine in football land. Maybe it's because I live in LA and have witnessed the apathy first hand, but I swear it just feels like no one is all that interested in pro football these days, at least around here. I also heard that overall tv ratings are down 9% this year for NFL games. But if diminished interest is a growing trend, give Cincy its due for being a trend setter for once lol! I've seen several local articles about attendance at Chargers games with comments saying stuff like "LA supports winners...this isn't Cleveland. We aren't going to support a losing team just because they play here." Probably more a symptom of the lack of historical roots to any of the teams here, but also kinda cool to see Cleveland has a reputation for being die hard supporters of the local teams there.
  2. I agree with 327's point up thread. These buildings are being constructed on Cleveland's main drag, Euclid Avenue, and there is no ground floor retail? No extra height or special attention paid to the corner? I get that this area is coming back from basically nothing, but it's in between the two most successful and busy parts of Cleveland, and there is a very successful BRT line right there. More attention should have been paid to the ground level street facing facade. It's better than nothing, I suppose. Hopefully once there is more activity in Midtown, future development will orient more around pedestrians and transit.
  3. This building would be an albatross in OTR for years to come. I'm all for getting creative with infill and I'm generally a proponent of contemporary architecture, but this building looks to be a bit of a mess, and is definitely inappropriate in one of the best and biggest historic districts in the country. I see structures similar to this one in many parts of LA- most dating from the 70s and 80s- so nothing is really contemporary or fresh about this design. It looks like the Watergate complex on top of a vaguely Googie inspired base. There is no interaction with the corner, lots of dead and wasted space, and it seems quite out of scale with its neighbors. I don't have a problem with buildings going a bit higher on Liberty to address the width of the street, but they should still respect their context a bit better than this does. Maybe a 4 story base with a couple more stories set back on top could work to achieve this effect. I guess we need to wait and see other renderings, but so far, this building is a definite no from me. It'd be better in the MLK area, if it must get built.
  4. I've been looking at the photos of the renovated Music Hall, and I don't think it really looks all that different or better. Don't get me wrong, the building looks nice as it always did, it just doesn't seem all that different than before. I guess some of the biggest components of the renovation were more structural than something that would be instantly noticeable.
  5. South Africa is longer travel time but there is no real jet lag from Western Europe to South Africa. Flying due south for the most part. Seasonal disorders? :) I'm not saying players have any control of the process but it would be better for the Euro Leagues if it were played in Morocco. I don't think Morocco has a real chance but with Trump, never say never. They would have to build more indoor facilities due to the summer heat (although not nearly as bad as Qatar). It would be a big FU vote to the US for sure. The other possibility would be for FIFA to demand that the higher profile games be played in Mexico and Canada despite the fact that most of the venues will be in the US. From what I know of FIFA, they don't exactly have a strong moral compass.
  6. Travel time and jet lag should not be of concern for an event like the World Cup. If they were, how did South Africa get it?
  7. ^ The most recent South Park addresses this issue too. Stan Marsh starts calling random people in Columbus, OH and telling them they're racist for living in a city named after Christopher Columbus. With the whole confederate statue removal issue, my general feeling is if you are remembered for something unjust, wrong, negative, then you should not be commemorated. If you are remembered for something positive, but had transgressions or are known to have also done something unjust, I think that it's ok to commemorate. MLK was a known serial adulterer, Washington and Jefferson had slaves, Lincoln has some pretty nasty quotes about black people, Gandhi was racist against blacks...no one is perfect. Now is Columbus more scenario 1 or 2, that's probably up for debate.
  8. The whole indigenous peoples day thing is a national movement. Los Angeles just swapped Columbus Day for IP Day a month or so ago. Denver did it a while ago, and my buddy from Berkeley said he only knew the holiday as IP Day, as I guess that city made the change a long time ago. I think it makes sense in cities that have large Hispanic populations, as that is normally the group that initiates these things (at least in LA and Denver). Yvette is just trying to get on the ultra progressive bandwagon. I think it will backfire in a conservative city like Cincinnati. Personally, this is the type of shit that makes me hesistate to identify as a progressive. This ultra sensitivity to things that don't really matter is annoying and divisive.
  9. I don't like the cladding on the garage, but overall, this is a really nice project. Now we just need about 8 more of these in the CBD!
  10. Ugh, this week already blows. I'm so happy I got to see Tom Petty live a few years back. Honestly was one of the best concerts I've ever been to. RIP to a true legend.
  11. It was his first time to the Midwest, and Chicago was the first stop. It'd be interesting to hear if his reaction would have been the same if the order of the visits were reversed. I will say, though, for a first time visitor, I think Chicago is pretty impressive. The canyon of high-rises along the river is very cool and unique, and the sheer scale of the downtown area is quite impressive. Throw in the blue-turquoise water of Lake Michigan, iconic parks, and the whole Chicago 'story' (food, jazz/blues, mafia, architecture, sports...), and it makes for a very memorable and unique place. I think those of us who have been to Chicago a million times get jaded about how special the city is for a first-time visitor.
  12. A co-worker of mine, who is from Hawaii originally, recently took a vacation to a Chicago, Montreal, Quebec City, Ottawa, and Toronto. He's an urban planner and works in historic preservation. I asked what his favorite and least favorite cities were, and without hesitation, he said his least favorite place of the trip was Toronto. He said it seemed incredibly sterile, and much of the city looked indistinguishable from other parts. By contrast, he loved Chicago, and said it felt like a much bigger and more interesting city. I just thought this was interesting, given how much love Toronto seems to recieve here and on other urban fourms. I've also heard these same complaints from multiple people who have recently visited Toronto. Kind of a, "yeah, it's a big city, but it's just kind of bland and lacking in character." I must say, from photos I've seen of the place, I don't feel compelled to visit.
  13. ^Thanks for all the project photo updates, taestell[/member]! I love seeing the drone photos of OTR.
  14. Dude, weren't you just talking about how OTR needs to maintain its affordability so that the middle class can afford to live there? Personally, I'm ok with unoffensive infill in OTR, as long as the proportions, scale, massing, etc. are OK, I don't need anything ground breaking or exciting. The visual highlight of OTR is the historic building stock. Infill built in the neighborhood should complement the historic structures, but doesn't need to compete with them. My complaint in the other thread is that we are allowing too many single family homes and not enough larger apartment or condo buildings. Density will ultimately decide how affordable the neighborhood is. Not necessarily. San Francisco, Manhattan, and Paris are all very dense, and they are among the most expensive residential markets in the world. Density will help keep supply and demand more balanced, which could potentially slow the rate of housing cost creep, but as the neighborhood gets more desirable, looses some of the social problems with the homeless and very low income population, reduces crime and blight, it is going to get more expensive. In Cincy, this isn't really a big issue at the citywide level, as we have a ton of neighborhoods that are still very cheap. Once those places start to become unaffordable to the middle class, then we will have a true gentrification problem in the city.
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