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Great American Tower 665'
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  1. I'm touring this building this evening. I'll post some construction photos when I have a chance.
  2. Interestingly, somebody jumped on and gave it a range of 700-1,300 ft tall.
  3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Ohio Interesting how this wikipedia entry has the proposed height of 653 ft.
  4. Looking at this the other day, it appears there is a concrete pumping piece of equipment mounted to the top of that column, probably to pour the concrete for the parking deck. My guess is this will be removed at some point.
  5. I would agree if they would've kept the original "alley" idea, molded after Melbourne, AU. But the new concept doesn't really organically blend with E. 4th, and for that reason (other than the hotel and parking) I don't think they'd meld into one "destination" Since when is the alley part of the project taken out?
  6. What? The word? I would think the name. How about Scranton Yards
  7. Granted, the existing Flats East Bank apartment building has 240 apartments in a structure having 7 usable stories although the ground floor is an open double-floor so the building looks like eight stories tall. Consider the land area occupied by this large building. It's huge! The building itself (less parking) measures more than 300,000 square feet! The space that might be taken by the new apartment tower is not so expansive. In fact, at most the surface area it might cover could be about 45,000-50,000 square feet. Now if the plan for the Phase III apartment tower will continue to offer 300 apartments (nearly the same as Lumen's 318 units which, BTW,, is costing $135 million vs. Flats East Bank's $150 million Phase III) and occupy a smaller surface area than the Flats phase II apartment building, then we're talking a pretty tall building. The question is, how big will this tower's floorplates be? As noted above, it would be roughly the southern half of the parking lot at West 11th and Main. If you take it literally that it will be exactly the southern half, then the larger red polygon is that southern half, representing the 45,000-50,000 square feet. But I recall seeing past renderings that a parking deck could be built along the Waterfront Line side of this lot. If so, then we may be talking the left half of that polygon. If so, then the floorplates of the apartment tower may be much smaller, like 20,000-30,000 square feet. Look at the site graphic for a comparison of the potential areas involved. We have an expansive area for the existing 240-unit apartment, 7-to 8-story building vs. a possibly small area for the 300-unit apartment building. The floorplates will determine the height. We already have a pretty good idea of the number of units (about 300) and the cost (about $140 million--that will also include the retail/movie theater/parking). We'll see what Wolstein has in mind. I'm betting 20+ stories including the multi-level retail/movie theater/parking base structure. Old renderings had the tower closer to the Phase 2 apartment building. Although this rendering has the tower much shorter. And this older lease plan did have the parking garage up against the WFL.
  8. Any movement on the Ohio Bell (AT&T) building conversion to apartments? There was a story back in 2017 about a Texas developer buying the building. http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2017/06/texas_developer_could_buy_down.html
  9. No. It's much deeper, which explains the number of 350'-400' skyscrapers we have along East 9th street. It's much more expensive to build taller in Cleveland, which is why we only have four skyscrapers taller than 500'. You can see evidence of that in New York City too. That's why there are concentrations of skyscrapers near Battery Park, then several blocks of low-rise buildings, then back to the Empires and Chrysler type skyscrapers.
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