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  1. “You can’t do it all at once.” Um, I laid out the phases immediately above. The waterfront extension is a CBD loop for all of the reasons you mentioned; that’s why I think it should be first. And I also think the land bridge transit center is critical - without that, I would agree there is no reason for commuter rail to go to the lakefront station. With it, that location is convenient to City Hall, the northern part of East 9th, Key Tower, and the Justice Center, plus the lakefront attractions. I disagree about the density of Summit County - downtown Hudson and downtown Cuyahoga Falls are ideal Commuter Rail locations, and the tracks are convenient to where (relative) density already exists. Obviously downtown Akron is a good location, especially with the university right there. (And let’s remember that the CVSR station is not as convenient to downtown Akron. Plus the CVSR is SLOW.) The second Akron station is close to Goodyear HQ - in fact, the tracks go right by HQ, so the station could be there. Certainly south of there the benefits and ridership drop, perhaps Akron - CAK - Canton should be viewed as a later phase of that line. And for me, the purpose of the Solon Line is at least as much to carry Cleveland residents to the many jobs in Solon as the other way around. The Lorain - Cleveland - Solon Line was the the route with the best ridership to cost ratio when these commuter rail lines were all studied about 15 years ago, and there are more jobs in Solon now than there were then.
  2. Here the write-up on the E.79 Station rebuild from Progressive Railroading: https://www.progressiverailroading.com/passenger_rail/news/Cleveland-RTA-to-begin-East-79th-Street-Station-reconstruction--60075 The Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority (GCRTA) on April 1 will begin construction on the East 79th Street Station. The $10 million project calls for redesigning the Red Line station to include ramps and stairs, an upgraded pedestrian track crossing and a new entry plaza.
  3. I'd love to see the Blue Line extended down Northfield Rd to 480 or across Harvard Rd through Highland Hills to the Chagrin Highlands and 271. I'd love to see the Green Line extended to and up Richland Rd to Beachwood Place and then over to Landerhaven and on to Hillcrest Hospital. But those projects would require WAY more political effort and would face substantial push-back - there are simply too many Americans that have no idea what good transit looks like and what it can do for them. They only see the expense of rail, while ignoring the staggering costs of roads and cars. So we have to build the good example first. Furthermore, the downtown loop, the Blue Line reroute to University Circle, and the commuter rail would all make additional lines more valuable. Other great examples would include a W 25th streetcar from the CBD Loop, over the Detroit Superior Bridge, through Ohio City, through Metro, past the zoo, and through Brooklyn Center (aka @GISguy 's line); from the Waterfront Line to Scranton peninsula into Tremont, through the Steelyard, and connecting back to the W25th line; and a line up Cedar Hill, along the Euclid Heights Blvd median to Coventry and on to Severance Center; Payne Ave; and Broadway through Slavic Village, on through Garfield Heights and Maple Heights. (I do have all of these in my more expansive Google Map linked on the previous page of entries.) Many, many good projects that would build a wonderful network. All that said, let's start with something that is somewhat more feasible. If those first projects aren't done right, none of the other projects would happen anyway.
  4. It's interesting to consider - the self-propelled rail cars (DMU) that would probably be used for Commuter Rail or the 3C+D rail could ride on the Red Line Tracks from West Blvd to Terminal Tower; however, full Amtrak trains could NOT. Forest City destroyed the old train RoW west of Terminal Tower when the Federal Courthouse was built. @KJP has estimated that it would take over $100M to restore that RoW for full length passenger train service. I am pushing hard for @KJP 's vision for the Multi-Modal Transit Center in the proposed Landbridge from the Convention Center / Mall to the Great Lakes Science Center over the railroad tracks and Shoreway. (Link: http://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2019/06/cleveland-can-energize-its-lakefront-in.html ) In order to get critical mass at the Transit Center, I like the idea of Commuter Rail also passing through that station. Furthermore, downtown streetcar loops that stop at the Transit Center would make that location much more useful. One challenge is that the lakefront line is heavily used for freight traffic, so @KJP 's Norfolk Southern downtown bypass proposal would probably need to be implemented. (Note that this plan is more about connecting Cleveland to the lake; simplifying passenger rail is a side benefit. That report is in the blog post linked above.) All that said, I agree the Terminal Tower would work too and I definitely would NOT terminate the west side service at West Blvd - just have it come all the way downtown, using the Red Line tracks. (I do agree with putting a station at West for transfers to Red Line, Detroit Streetcar, and local bus service.) I also agree that the CVSR will be extended to downtown - it is the most likely to happen of any of these proposals. The Commuter Rail proposal is detailed on the Google Map I created https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jwJYTqDuRjTaOhrx5g9gMR63xEMr783u&usp=sharing . Screen shots below. ALL of these commuter rail routes are on existing rail right-of-way. ALL of them north of Hudson are actively used by freight trains. South of Hudson is a bit more challenging, but still all existing RoW. (The portion between Hudson and Cuyahoga Falls has no track, and from Cuyahoga Falls south the track probably needs upgrades in most places.) In addition to passing sidings, the only other track upgrades required would be a connection near the Red Line E.79 station to connect the rail line to UC / Lake County to the rail line that goes to the Lakefront. This would be worth the cost as routing through UC roughly doubles the number of commuters that would be likely to use to service. The vast majority of the cost on the first two proposed lines (Lorain - Cleveland - Solon; Elyria - Hopkins - Cleveland - UC - Lake County) are the trainsets and the stations. I also think that doing Commuter Rail as an early phase is important to build up the user base and therefore political clout. We really need a functioning system before we start pushing the more expensive projects.
  5. And finally Phase 4: Huron Subway to enable convenient downtown loop for Green Line and Streetcar lines. Gateway and E.9/Prospect Stations Detroit Ave. Streetcar - West Blvd to Tower City to CBD Loop (Huron Subway, Waterfront Ext., St. Clair Streetcar) Commuter Rail to Akron, Canton (via Hudson, Cuyahoga Falls, & CAK Airport) Clearly I've spent far too much time thinking about all of this. I find these ideas interesting and I know a few of you do too. I'd be very much interested in your comments and concepts. I also fully acknowledge that none of this is happening with current transportation funding and if any of us had the money to do it we should be pushing for Transit-Oriented-Design at the existing Rapid stations. All that said, I will continue to dream of a future where transit is properly funded and proposals like these become realistic.
  6. Phase 3 Blue Line Reroute to University Circle via MLK, Stokes, Cedar-University Station, Adelbert Rd, and Euclid Ave. (downtown commuters transfer at Shaker Square) Add counterclockwise loop on Waterfront Line Extension Fulton Rd - Red Line Infill Station
  7. Phase 2: Two Commuter Rail Lines Lorain, Westlake, Rocky River, West Blvd (transfer), Downtown CLE, Warrensville Heights, Solon Elyria, Hopkins Airport, West Blvd (transfer), Downtown CLE, University Circle, Euclid, Lake County
  8. Phase 1: Waterfront Line Extension to form a downtown loop (East 12th, Euclid Ave, East 22nd) St. Clair Streetcar, terminating at Tower City (Note: Streetcar is compatible with Blue/Green Light Rail infrastructure) Red Line Viaduct Infill Station (above intersection of Carter and Canal) - Connects to CVSR downtown extension at the B&O station
  9. I made a new version of my Cleveland rail transit proposal Google Map featuring only the "more realistic" proposals. Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jwJYTqDuRjTaOhrx5g9gMR63xEMr783u&usp=sharing Some updates: - Building the Huron Subway would make it practical to have CBD "Loops" on the Green Line, Detroit Streetcar, and St. Clair Streetcar. The downtown loop would tremendously increases the ridership of each line. - With this in mind, I think the Detroit Streetcar and St. Clair Streetcar should be separate, not one continuous route. It just seems much more likely that a rider of either line would be traveling to a CBD station on the loop, than to a station on the other line beyond that loop. St. Clair Streetcar travels the loop clockwise, Detroit Streetcar travels the loop counterclockwise. - With multiple light rail and streetcars following the Huron Subway, I think it should be constructed underground to the east of East 9th. I realize this is wildly expensive, but there would be two lines each direction on this stretch, meaning there could be a train every 2.5 minutes during rush hour service. Or perhaps it could surface in the Gateway area, but go back underground to go under the East 9th / Prospect / Huron intersection. Let's prepare for downtown's success! - Euclid Ave. from East 13th / Huron to East 22nd would ideally be no-through-auto-traffic. At a minimum, strict enforcement of not blocking the tracks is required. - The more I think about it, I think the Blue Line reroute concept should be MLK to Stokes to Red Line (transfer at Cedar-University) to Adelbert to Euclid Ave (west). The Larchmere - Coventry - Fairmount to Cedar Hill routing is fun to consider, but I suspect it would generate significant push-back. (I'm thinking about the current conversations around the Shaker Sq redo and Top-of-the-Hill in Cleveland Heights.) And realistically there's more opportunity for redevelopment along MLK, plus this route would certainly be much less expensive. There's just so much potential - think about how much more valuable Shaker Square becomes if there is direct rail connection to the hospitals and CWRU. Think of how much Blue Line ridership would increase. And the Blue Line operating expenses go WAY down. Hat tip to @KJP for this awesome concept! - The Solon commuter rail line only goes to Harper Rd (Nestle/Stouffer's Plant); beyond that, the tracks have not been maintained, tracks have been removed at roads, and I suspect there would be much more political push-back.
  10. Greater Cleveland RTA Board re-elects president and vice president https://www.masstransitmag.com/management/press-release/21131477/greater-cleveland-regional-transit-authority-rta-grater-cleveland-rta-board-reelects-president-and-vice-president Mar 26th, 2020 The Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority (RTA) Board of Trustees has elected Westlake Mayor Dennis Clough to serve as president of the board and Rev. Charles Lucas to serve as vice president, each serving for another year. The 10-member board held the elections at its annual meeting. Clough was appointed to the Greater Cleveland RTA Board by the Cuyahoga County Mayors and City Managers Association in 1999. He was elected board vice president in 2011. His has served as president since 2018.
  11. I got an email from the orchestra that ALL concerts through May 31 are cancelled. No Dvorak, No Pictures from an Exhibition, No Lulu. The John Williams concert is being rescheduled for a later date. Unsurprising, but disappointing. Sorry @YABO713
  12. MBTA awards Green Line B Branch station consolidation contract https://www.progressiverailroading.com/passenger_rail/news/MBTA-awards-Green-Line-B-Branch-station-consolidation-contract--60048 “Under the contract, St. Paul Street and Boston University West stations will be demolished and rebuilt into one station; the Babcock Street and Pleasant Street stations will be demolished and rebuilt into another.“ In my opinion, all transit articles should include maps. This one didn't, so I created it.
  13. Does it, though? The revised apartment renders ONLY show the new 9 story design of the apartment building. The office was two (?) stories taller than the original 7 story apartment building. I don’t think we have any indication of what a revised office building might look like. And I’m sure it depends on what tenant they line up - a spec office building seems extremely unlikely.
  14. Hey Ken, great to hear that the financing is lined up and everything is a go for construction of the residential building. I’m seeing conflicting info on the height. The more recent renderings that @NorthShore647 posted from the February Landmarks Commission approval meeting clearly show a 9 story apartment building, not the earlier 7 story version. I was under the impression that they made the apartment building taller once the office building had to be delayed. Has recent info given you the impression it will only be 7 stories? Either way, I’m very glad to see this project moving.
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