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  1. They’ll be selling each unit for as much as possible, there won’t be any raising the price. Even if the retail rent was free, with those required hours you’d still struggle to find someone to operate that.
  2. Not to get too far off topic and I know East Cleveland is a disaster, but Cleveland itself isn’t necessarily a symbol of “competent, trustworthy leadership”!
  3. I hear you but that’s a good way to guarantee nothing ever gets built. As for retail, it’s hard enough filling new retail spaces in developments in active areas. It would be d@mn near impossible here.
  4. I don’t think we need any more underused green space added to the group plan. And yes, downtown’s grid and traffic patterns are a complete mess. Causes a lot of unnecessary congestion and carbon emissions. It seems like it’s just pieced together with no real thought to the entire downtown road network.
  5. I think this is testing the market so I don’t blame them for trying to keep costs down through material choice. If these do well and the area continues to build up I could see future projects incorporating brick and other higher cost materials.
  6. Imagine walking on the north side of Detroit through this intersection/circle. I can see how it's an improvement for drivers, but as a pedestrian it's a nightmare.
  7. Looks to have more to do with the reduction of lanes, introduction of a median, on street parking buffer, and a ton of landscaping. All of this could have still been achieved without the traffic circles. The article mentions that pedestrians have to cross less pavement now. While this is somewhat true, thanks to islands and the reduction of lanes, it's referring specifically to drivable pavement. Pedestrians actually have to travel a further distance and more complicated route now.
  8. Traffic circles have a car first mentality. I often hear fans of traffic circles state that traffic circles are statistically safer for pedestrians. While this may be true, so are pedestrian bridges. I wouldn't call either convenient, urban, or pedestrian friendly though. They are also terrible for the visually impaired.
  9. Downtown Cleveland isn’t the lower east side. We’re not even sure if Heinens is profitable yet. Any competition or duplication of services will probably hurt. If Target was actually a possibility I’d take it any day over Heinens. Ideally both would be able to survive though.
  10. Just remember that the 20,000 population figure does not hold true for retail. Stores will not open once we reach that number, so don't get too excited. For example there is one Target serving over 125,000 residents in the heights. Lakewood has 50,000 residents and a vibrant bar and restaurant scene but very little national retail. Downtown is disconnected from the neighborhoods and borders a lake, so its not a natural retail center. And in todays world of cars and free parking lots, and Steelyard Commons funneling away shoppers, it will be that much harder for a retail scene to develop. Go to googlemaps and type in any major retail store, I think I remember reading Marshalls or Old Navy earlier in this thread. Look how spread out they are and how large of a population they serve. They are also all located in retail hubs, surrounded by other major retailers. Nationally retail is struggling. Getting a store to locate almost alone in a current retail space isn't going to happen. You need something like a massive warehouse district project bringing retailers in all at once, and even then the market is still not great for it. Tower City tried it in the 90's and it failed. I know many of you will say that the market is better now, that there are more residents downtown. While there are more downtown residents compared to when the Avenue at Tower City opened, there are far less workers, way more competition with new major retail malls and centers, population has continued to sprawl out of the county, and nationally the retail scene is much worse off now that we have online shopping. Plus the current 17,500 population figure is inflated.
  11. I easily would if we could have guaranteed that the entire neighborhood would still be intact. Most likely it would have been demolished for parking or other less iconic buildings though.
  12. I think the difference between the garage and tower looks a bit odd. The panels somewhat remind me of the paneling from the 1960/70s that didn’t age well. I fear the same thing happening here. Glad to have the building though!
  13. ^ they were part of the neighborhood that was cleared for the terminal tower project
  14. If you wanted to do anything I would suggest reducing the amount of pavement on the intersection. Reduce Lake to 25ft, one lane in each direction. On the south side of the street create a two way 10 ft bike lane with a 5ft landscaped buffer from traffic.
  15. Agreed. There isn’t even a traffic argument for this. A traffic circle would add a lot of pavement to this intersection, as well as eat up a lot of the developable land. The interiors are generally rather inaccessible and unpleasant, becoming more of a driver amenity (something interesting to look at), rather than a pedestrian amenity or neighborhood asset. I agree with @Mendo and would much rather see a pedestrian friendly urban intersection similar to East 55th and Broadway.
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